Korean CMP garands

"...trade a Garand for one of those Jeeps..." Only if you're a mechanic. There are no parts or anything else available and they guzzle gas.
"...what is the CMP?..." Civilian Marksmanship Program. thecmp.org Add the W's. As mentioned, they sell only what DOD gives 'em.
The Korean Army owns the M1's. They wanted to sell 'em to raise money. King Obama stopped the re-importation by Presidential Edict.
"... CMP does not sell junk...." They might but they'd tell you it's condition.

Sunray said:

"...trade a Garand for one of those Jeeps..." Only if you're a mechanic. There are no parts or anything else available and they guzzle gas.
"...what is the CMP?..." Civilian Marksmanship Program. thecmp.org Add the W's. As mentioned, they sell only what DOD gives 'em.
The Korean Army owns the M1's. They wanted to sell 'em to raise money. King Obama stopped the re-importation by Presidential Edict.
"... CMP does not sell junk...." They might but they'd tell you it's condition.

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Yeah, I remember the gas guzzler part. If you had one these days it would have to be converted to 12 volt. You could always tell a 6 volt system because the headlights were very dim at night. Parts would be an absolute nightmare. I know a guy who collects those old deuce and half trucks. He's crazy.

kBob said:

If they are anything like the Blue Sky gun I bought when they came ( and Garands were scarce upon the ground so I got excited and stupid) they might make great starting points for a decorative floor light stand. When I took it back to the store that traded me for it they were embarrassed at having sold it enough they offered me a better rifle. First few five shot groups at 100 yards with some Winchester made M2 for the Dominican Republic (great ammo and brass that was BTW) messured 6 to 8 inches. The butt plate was worn nearly smooth. Gas cylinder barrel splines were beat up and the groves for them wallowed out so bad that the front sights were never in the same place twice. Seventh round clip ejection.....you name it, they were all there. A couple of nights before I decided to try to express my rage at the dealer I noticed something glowing in the corner behind my bedroom door about 3 AM.....there was what I thought was a dot of white paint in a small hole below the rear aperature that was glowing in the dark......five hours after lights out. I think it might have been old clock face radium paint. Great, not only a pile of junk , but a radioactive pile of junk!

I got the impression that rifle may have been stored in an old barn for daily issue to troops running an obstical/confidence/illfentration course.....as a punishment detail.

Hopefully any Korean Garands that may at some point make it into the US in the future will be I better shape.

Wow that was three decades ago. Oddly I passed that store yesterday and they had a sign out front mentioning they had a Ruger Blackhawk Pervertable 9/.357 in stock. I dashed in to ask if it was used and from the owners personal collection. Alas it was new, for Even 30 plus years own I want my Ruger BH Pervertable that was part of that trade back.

Synchronisity in THR yet again.

-kBob

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And my blue sky is about as perfect as you can get, bore is fantastic, and I know it was not re barreled as it still has the blue sky on the end. If anything it has a bit of rack rash, but that is to be expected of a military rifle that is basically a hand me down.

I could not be more happy with it, however I do see your point. After people see how it shoots they are....that is a blue sky....you had to rebarrel it right....wow, no you did not...you got lucky. Perhaps I did. But I know it will shoot with the best of them, that is all I care about.

There is the other side of blue sky as well....you know that rifle was used in korea....you have the history behind it....and that is much more valuable to me.

Sunray said:

"...trade a Garand for one of those Jeeps..." Only if you're a mechanic. There are no parts or anything else available and they guzzle gas.
"...what is the CMP?..." Civilian Marksmanship Program. thecmp.org Add the W's. As mentioned, they sell only what DOD gives 'em.
The Korean Army owns the M1's. They wanted to sell 'em to raise money. King Obama stopped the re-importation by Presidential Edict.
"... CMP does not sell junk...." They might but they'd tell you it's condition.

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I always wanted a 151...they are just so cool.....and for a toy who cares about the gas guzzling.

Sunray said:

"...trade a Garand for one of those Jeeps..." Only if you're a mechanic. There are no parts or anything else available and they guzzle gas.
"...what is the CMP?..." Civilian Marksmanship Program. thecmp.org Add the W's. As mentioned, they sell only what DOD gives 'em.
The Korean Army owns the M1's. They wanted to sell 'em to raise money. King Obama stopped the re-importation by Presidential Edict.
"... CMP does not sell junk...." They might but they'd tell you it's condition.

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Why would a flathead four guzzle gas?

fpgt72 said:

I always wanted a 151...they are just so cool.....and for a toy who cares about the gas guzzling.

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fpgt72,

I sort of want a 151 myself......that is the VN "Error" (looks more correct than Era in this context) "Jeep" that was officially known as the "Mutt" but no one called it that. For the bit in the early 1980's I was a Battalion Motor officer and had a few to worry about. The one assigned to me was the hanger queen and usually did not run. I thus shared one with the HHB commander. My motor Daddy E7 was also a former Infantryman so we looked to improve comfort where ever possible. We got a second heater coil with an electric fan from property disposal from part of Corps Depot and some metal "T tubing and extra heater hose and placed the second heater coil and fan between the front seats facing rear. This allowed the HHB Divarty XO (me) to sleep warm and toasty most for the time we were on the road. The 151s were about the easiest to maintain of my 54 wheeled vehicles very easy compared to the Gamma Goats and much less care intensive than the Dodge 880 pick'em up trucks which were little more than Chryslers lowest value civilian pick up painted green. I had one of those red tagged for (beginning before I arrived) 15 months. Parts in the system were made of unobtainium and when the guy with two stars got interested in that particular truck I modified a civilian wiring harness I bought out of pocket and installed with a "Modification Work Order." At least the pick ups never caught fire as the Goats occasionally did......well except one in one of the Armored battalions that was fired bombed by terrorist.......or maybe mechanics.....

There are a couple of 151s around Gainesville FL one belonging to a retired Marine and another to a retired Army NCO. I believe both installed hidden roll bars. Both are painted up same as when those guys were company First Shirts. I will say the Ford Bronco "hard top" we had for the DivArty CO was a lot drier in wet weather, warmer in the winter (until I did my double heater mod) and easier to keep going.

A buddy in high school had one of the older GI jeeps for his first car......back when our school had very nice M-1 Garands (ha, got on topic) like the ones used in Korea ......... That thing died and honorable death going forward at the end on one cylinder.

-kBob

Great story.

Justin Thyme said:

Stupid Question I'm sure- but what is the CMP?

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Civilian Marksmanship Program

My business partner is Korean, he did his compulsory service in 1970. He shot a Korean Garand once.

For rifle training, they sat in a classroom half a day. Then to the range.

In the range parking lot, they all lined up. The instructor walked the line and handed each man one cartridge.
Each man had a turn at the firing line. You handed your cartridge to the instructor and assumed prone position empty handed.
The instructor loaded the Garand (he only had ONE rifle), placed it on safety, and handed it to the prone recruit.
One at a time, each recruit fired his single round. After every man took his one shot, they walked to mess for lunch.
He said that was the only rifle training in his company. One shot. They never returned to the range.

I'm wondering if those Korean rifles are pristine. Low round count. Never issued. Never abused.

ants said:

...I'm wondering if those Korean rifles are pristine. Low round count. Never issued. Never abused.

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Wowzers ants! You certainly know how to on bring the funny!