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Come on, CZ....."Read Manual Before Use" on P10C
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And yet, where are the warning labels on cars? Work auto parts and you begin to think the owners manual should be required to be in the vehicle at all times and a legal requirement when transferred to a new owner.
Oops, ok, just look - "fan may operate with engine shut off." And etc. We get a lot of safety warnings - the problem is that most people are "users," not designers or even qualified maintainers. Goes all the way back to "Tron" which popularized the concept, but it existed even before when folks couldn't get their TV's to start up and then opened up the back to see which tube was faulty. And there it was, a big sticker near the power transformer telling you it had enough juice in it after shut down it could kill you.
Goes to another sticker on cars, if HID lights are on it, then the transformers for them have warning stickers. They are high voltage and can injure.
You and I know which end of a gun might possibly injure us, in the larger picture most of us don't have a clue about all the various things that can and will injure you in life. There's simply too many. This would be a good place to attach a pic of a burning laptop because the lithium battery got shorted. Lithium is extremely sensitive to water, too, battery factories are dehumidified to an extreme yet they still get weekly cook-offs in assembly. If you don't keep the dust out of the duct work they burn to the ground on ignition - the photos are on the walls at the new annex I worked at.
We could use labels on more stuff - I'm thinking of one gun in particular which has been connected to a large number of owners and officers who attempt to holster it yet it discharges, shooting them in the leg. "KEEP FINGER OUT OF TRIGGER GUARD WHEN HOLSTERING" in blinking orange LED's might slow it down . . . maybe . . .
Oops, ok, just look - "fan may operate with engine shut off." And etc. We get a lot of safety warnings - the problem is that most people are "users," not designers or even qualified maintainers. Goes all the way back to "Tron" which popularized the concept, but it existed even before when folks couldn't get their TV's to start up and then opened up the back to see which tube was faulty. And there it was, a big sticker near the power transformer telling you it had enough juice in it after shut down it could kill you.
Goes to another sticker on cars, if HID lights are on it, then the transformers for them have warning stickers. They are high voltage and can injure.
You and I know which end of a gun might possibly injure us, in the larger picture most of us don't have a clue about all the various things that can and will injure you in life. There's simply too many. This would be a good place to attach a pic of a burning laptop because the lithium battery got shorted. Lithium is extremely sensitive to water, too, battery factories are dehumidified to an extreme yet they still get weekly cook-offs in assembly. If you don't keep the dust out of the duct work they burn to the ground on ignition - the photos are on the walls at the new annex I worked at.
We could use labels on more stuff - I'm thinking of one gun in particular which has been connected to a large number of owners and officers who attempt to holster it yet it discharges, shooting them in the leg. "KEEP FINGER OUT OF TRIGGER GUARD WHEN HOLSTERING" in blinking orange LED's might slow it down . . . maybe . . .
Well, one of my pet peeves, and something CZ hasn't had on their pistols, has been the "safety billboards" on the side of revolvers, pistols, whatever. I was looking at potentially getting the new CZ P10C, and pics show "Read Manual Before Use".
IMO,...it takes away from the look of a firearm. It's ridiculous to have something permanent sprawled across the gun. This includes "Warning will fire with magazine removed" and any other statements the legal ninnies have insisted upon.
If I ever DO end up getting something with with such word on it, I'll be sure to have it removed somehow.
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I think warning labels are largely stupid over-reactions to predatory lawsuits, and I oppose their being engraved on firearms. That said, I'd buy the gun I want if it's the gun I want. CZ is by no means the first or worst culprit on this.
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Well, one of my pet peeves, and something CZ hasn't had on their pistols, has been the "safety billboards" on the side of revolvers, pistols, whatever. I was looking at potentially getting the new CZ P10C, and pics show "Read Manual Before Use".
IMO,...it takes away from the look of a firearm. It's ridiculous to have something permanent sprawled across the gun. This includes "Warning will fire with magazine removed" and any other statements the legal ninnies have insisted upon.
If I ever DO end up getting something with with such word on it, I'll be sure to have it removed somehow.
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Bothers me so much. I remember my sd40 had “read owners manual” on the side and also on the top of the slide, along the chambered round indicator it said “Loaded when up” in big white words lol
Bothered me so much I had to get rid of it. Made me feel like I was carrying airsoft gun
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Well,...it certainly isn't as nice looking as the new M&P 2.0 compact....so yeah, I would agree that the new CZ is a bit lacking in the looks department.
mljdeckard
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For my opinion on this subject, see my signature line.
To these warnings make it seam like the gun was intended for idiot amateur.Well, one of my pet peeves, and something CZ hasn't had on their pistols, has been the "safety billboards" on the side of revolvers, pistols, whatever. I was looking at potentially getting the new CZ P10C, and pics show "Read Manual Before Use".
IMO,...it takes away from the look of a firearm. It's ridiculous to have something permanent sprawled across the gun. This includes "Warning will fire with magazine removed" and any other statements the legal ninnies have insisted upon.
If I ever DO end up getting something with with such word on it, I'll be sure to have it removed somehow.
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You can always sell that CZ and buy a Glock. Now is not bad time to dump the CZ because they are not easy to find and people are looking for them. To give you analogy Czechs make good beer, but so do Belgians, Germans, Russians,.....there are choices out there.
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armoredman
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Exactly. 
Old Dog
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Hmm. I have an intense dislike for Ruger handguns. But I sure do like CZ's pistols ...
TN Outlaw
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Some handguns are so littered with warnings that it takes a really nice looking gun and makes it ugly. It bothers me pretty bad on my Ruger 22/45 Lite.
The CZ P10C is not too bad though. Its not very eye catching and being on a plain looking poly gun its not really hurting anything visually. Id still buy it over a Glock personally.
The CZ P10C is not too bad though. Its not very eye catching and being on a plain looking poly gun its not really hurting anything visually. Id still buy it over a Glock personally.
Id still buy it over a Glock personally.[/QUOTE]
Why? I examined one closely and didn't like anything about the gun. The trigger pull quality that almost every U-tube gun whore sang praises about was actually worse than one found on Walther Creed.
Why? I examined one closely and didn't like anything about the gun. The trigger pull quality that almost every U-tube gun whore sang praises about was actually worse than one found on Walther Creed.
Carl N. Brown
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If I get broke down on the mountain in Bear Hollow (a cell phone dead zone), while waiting for my sister or my son to notice I am not back, I can break out my blanket, MRE, bottled water and read my Ruger by flashlight to pass time til help arrives.
Before using gun - read warnings in
instruction manual available from
Sturm, Ruger & Co.Inc.
Southport, Conn. U.S.A.
Even my Phoenix Arms Model Raven has reading material on the side of the magazine:
* Safety Notice *
After removal of magazine from
pistol, always check barrel
for additional ammunition.
Before using gun - read warnings in
instruction manual available from
Sturm, Ruger & Co.Inc.
Southport, Conn. U.S.A.
Even my Phoenix Arms Model Raven has reading material on the side of the magazine:
* Safety Notice *
After removal of magazine from
pistol, always check barrel
for additional ammunition.
Riomouse911
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Yes. Sadly, some really are.
The world is full of knowledgeable people who get complacent or careless, and of people who haven't been taught the basics of safe gun handling. THESE are the people who hire the attorneys and sue when they do something stupid.
I, too HATE the Ruger "don't be an idiot" billboards stamped all over their gun barrels... but I like a lot of their stuff so I have to live with it.
Thunderchicken
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Read the attached and then tell me CZ is wrong for placing a warning in their gun. I picked one up last week and love it, with or without the warning label.
http://www.chron.com/news/casey/article/Incredible-lawsuit-tales-1826357.php
I read it. It was about how many people believed a made-up story about a lawsuit that never happened. In fact, I heard that story back in 1975 from an insurance agent. Your comment made me think you might've not read the whole article, but maybe I misunderstood you.
TomJ
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Actually, I'm going to have to eat some crow on this one. The point I was trying to make by posting the article was that frivolous lawsuits are common and lead companies to post warnings that are silly to anyone with common sense. I should have picked a better article.
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