351 WINCHESTER
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I was in my lgs today & I was told that Ruger will resume making their Old Army. Please don't ask when, but I've been hearing rumors for a while. I was even told the list price which was around $800. as I recall.
New Ruger Old Army
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dickydalton
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http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RUBP7
http://tooeleshootingsupply.com/sho...5-barrel-stainless-talo-exclusive-ruger-1406/
It looks as though the 5 1/2" fixed sight Models are already sold out. They were also $1269.
http://tooeleshootingsupply.com/sho...5-barrel-stainless-talo-exclusive-ruger-1406/
It looks as though the 5 1/2" fixed sight Models are already sold out. They were also $1269.
Panzerschwein
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Nice to see they will only be a limited edition short production run product made only for the collectors to stick in their safes and never fire.
At least this is what it seems.
I expect such things from Colt, not Ruger. Shame on them.
At least this is what it seems.
I expect such things from Colt, not Ruger. Shame on them.
Patocazador
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Bill Ruger is dead. He can't ride herd on it anymore. 
ROA's were expensive when they were still readily available.
That being said I find all of Ruger's non Polymer revolvers are overly expensive.
J-Bar
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i know that roa are the cats meow, and should have got one 30 yrs ago...................... BUT $ 1269.00 i only payed $731.00 more for my truck that i drive every day and have for the last 3 years. good lord
Apples to oranges, or chalk and cheese, supply and demand...Every town has cheap used trucks for sale, but not ROAs.
Gaucho Gringo
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I have a Rodgers & Spenser reproduction that supposedly what the ROA is based off of that I paid $250.00 for. I also have a conversion cylinder that I bought for it. The gun locks up tighter than my Ruger .357 Blackhawk I used to own and it is very accurate, all for less than $440.00 or about 1\3rd of the cost of the new ROA.
Mizar
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Except for the loading lever mechanism, Rogers & Spencer have nothing in common with Ruger - they use Remington style firing mechanism.
45 Dragoon
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You are right Mizar! I believe the ROA design comes mostly from the Spiller and Burr with a Rogers and Spencer cylinder. The ROA and S&B share a Colt style action but the cylinder with its generous nipple clearances comes from R&S. All 3 have a similar loading lever set-up but Ruger went it's own way with the latch system.
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BullSlinger
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Was thinking of spare parts also but wondering if parts are going to cost an arm and a leg or just the first born male child.
Tallbald
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I wish Ruger would consider making a small bore Old Army. Don.
Someone had mentioned that a 5 shot .36 cal Bearcat version would be pretty cool. I must agree.
Patocazador
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Someone in the ROA club mentioned that he had one altered to .36 to shoot in matches. I don't remember who it was.
whughett
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The Spiller and Burr a direct copy of the Whitney, I believe.
D. Buck Stopshere
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Patocazador was probably thinking of me, although I don't believe I'm in the club yet. My Ruger .36 caliber "Old Navy" was a custom-built Old Army .44 done by well-known N-SSA & NMLRA pistolsmith, Tom "Mulie" Ball. A new 9mm octagon barrel was screwed on the frame. Both rear & front sights were by Bo-Mar. The. Ruger cylinder was fitted with .350" stainless steel sleeves. I believe I used Hornady .360 round balls. I tried .375 RB but they were hard to swage in, even with a cylinder press.
The previous owner won the 1997 NMLRA National Pistol Championship with this revolver. I expect there are less than 50 revolvers that have been converted, since the custom work was $500 over the cost of a new Ruger in 1995 ($350?). The only people intereted in such an endeavor as this, would likely be national-level competition pistol shooters, for whom money is not much of an object.
The previous owner won the 1997 NMLRA National Pistol Championship with this revolver. I expect there are less than 50 revolvers that have been converted, since the custom work was $500 over the cost of a new Ruger in 1995 ($350?). The only people intereted in such an endeavor as this, would likely be national-level competition pistol shooters, for whom money is not much of an object.
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Mizar
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Would you post some pictures of that conversion, or maybe even start a new thread?
Malachi Leviticus Blue
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Correct you are, other than the addition of the Brass frame that is.
I'm curious why the chambers would run .350" instead of something bore or a bit over as your barrel must be .355".
And what size ball does one use with a chamber that size?
D. Buck Stopshere
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Rodwa,
I think I used Hornady's .360 RB that he recommended and experimented with Hornady's .375 RB. The .375 was a bit of a struggle even with a cylinder press, so sticking with the .360 RB.
My friend also shot Hornady's .358 HBWC with 16 grains of GOEX 4FG and got tight groups at 50 yards.
Always the innovator, he had the pistolsmith, Tom Ball, plug the cylinder of a S&W Model 586, 357 magnum, with an 8" barrel. The plugs were drilled and threaded for revolver nipples. So, he shot a "cap & ball S&W" double action revolver in national competition matches in the mid '90's. He retired it after it got too difficult to disassemble for cleaning after shooting.
Some of his National pistol records still stand in the book.
Hope this helps.
I think I used Hornady's .360 RB that he recommended and experimented with Hornady's .375 RB. The .375 was a bit of a struggle even with a cylinder press, so sticking with the .360 RB.
My friend also shot Hornady's .358 HBWC with 16 grains of GOEX 4FG and got tight groups at 50 yards.
Always the innovator, he had the pistolsmith, Tom Ball, plug the cylinder of a S&W Model 586, 357 magnum, with an 8" barrel. The plugs were drilled and threaded for revolver nipples. So, he shot a "cap & ball S&W" double action revolver in national competition matches in the mid '90's. He retired it after it got too difficult to disassemble for cleaning after shooting.
Some of his National pistol records still stand in the book.
Hope this helps.
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Yep, a copy of the Whitney. My main point was the Colt type action in these as opposed to the R&S that is more like a Remington.
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Apples to oranges, or chalk and cheese, supply and demand...Every town has cheap used trucks for sale, but not ROAs.
Vary true, but the ROA will not get me 80 miles to work every day............. well it might, but im sure car jacking is considered bad form even here in the willy-wags not to mention a good way to find yourself looking at the bottom side of the grass
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