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Here's an unknown wildcard... Used to be called Night Owl Firearms but copyright had them change over to New Order Firearms. Made in the belly of Pittsburgh steel town... around Glock prices. With your strict criteria, I guess it's worth mentioning this new and small company.

http://neworderfirearms.com/
 
I am surprised. You would consider buying a pistol made by Remington but not Ruger or S&W. I don't mean to offend but why? Most of what I have read about Remington lately is the opposite of positive.
 
As far as using a search engine I am quite sure if you were to google American 9mm the Ruger American Pistol would be the first thing to show up.
 
Old Dog said:
Not to further run the thread off the tracks, but insistence on spending one's money only on an entirely U.S.-sourced and manufactured product these days is not only a frivolous thought, it leads to wasting countless hours doing research of consumer goods (unless one is so lazy that one's research consists only of posing questions on the internet to -- again -- anonymous persons possessed of dubious expertise) AND in the end, it's a virtually impossible and ultimately meaningless form of protest.

Vote in every election. Run for office. Write and be published. Become a lobbyist. Be a part of the mass media. But simply being an anonymous citizen buying goods one believes to have been sourced and made within our country's borders doesn't send any kind of message, even if it makes you feel good. It's a global economy, like it or not, and regardless of our present or future presidential administrations or Congress, that's not going to change in our lifetime.
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Stop using logic and reason, the OP is clearly not interested.
 
JR24 said:
Mecgar makes mags for a ton of guns, you'll need to do double diligence to avoid them
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Yes they do. A lot of manufacturers use MecGar to produce their magazines because it is more simple to have MecGar do it and the results are usually better.

I can’t think of a single pistol where I’d rather have a magazine made by Checkmate in the US, versus a magazine made by MecGar. For example a Beretta or SIG, the Checkmate magazines are garbage, the MecGar magazines are invariably 100% reliable.
 
Coal Dragger said:
Yes they do. A lot of manufacturers use MecGar to produce their magazines because it is more simple to have MecGar do it and the results are usually better.

I can’t think of a single pistol where I’d rather have a magazine made by Checkmate in the US, versus a magazine made by MecGar. For example a Beretta or SIG, the Checkmate magazines are garbage, the MecGar magazines are invariably 100% reliable.
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I have checkmate 1911 magazines that are just as good as Wilson or CMC.

But MecGar are great and I buy them with confidence.
 
Mike J said:
As far as using a search engine I am quite sure if you were to google American 9mm the Ruger American Pistol would be the first thing to show up.
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Does it get any more American than a ruger American? Lol
 
Riding a Harley, in Cowboy boots, while wearing a Detriot Tigers jacket, holding a Budwiser in one hand, open carrying a Ruger American in Fourty five auto, and clutching an A&W Papa burger in the other. 'Murica!



(I hope he doesn't wreck that bike that he's NOT driving while intoxicated and distracted.):)
 
FMK
Honor Defense
New Order

Say what you want about Oolong's criteria. Im enjoying looking at the offerings of smaller US manufacturers that are willing to make guns that are intended to compete with the big companies.

I also don't see anything wrong with voting with your pocket book. Globalization is only inevitable if we give up.
 
https://honordefense.com/

100% American

We use only USA materials parts and companies.

We are 100% manufactured in the USA and dedicated to keeping it that way.

Honor Defense(R) will not purchase parts from foreign firms with USA operations that then outsource overseas.

We support and honor American craftsmen and manufacturing.

Every firearm is assembled by Veterans, then test-fired with a +P Proof load.

All American. No apologies.

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danez71 said:
Are you sure the compliance with the Buy American Act comment?
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I get your point, and it does highlight the issue about "Made In America." It's not easy to find out factual information on it, when some of the 1911 crowd discovered their US marked pistols were actually coming here already rollmarked - from a foreign country - it wasn't pretty.

We don't really know what SIG did. Goes to AR's, too, peruse the Brownell's catalog and you will see they tried to exercise due diligence with AR parts but half the catalog isn't marked with a Made in the USA flag in the corner, including lowers and uppers. Oversight or revelation comes to mind, however there are AR plants in foreign countries that insist on domestic manufacture for their national security, too. Like that description of the "American" biker - Porsche does the engineering, his boots came from overseas, his jacket Sri Lanka or China, the burger ingredients from Argentina, Guatemala and Mexico.

We claim we are willling to start fighting globalization but the protest signs we use are written on imported pasteboard using imported markers and stapled onto a Canadian growth wooden stick with Brazilian metal staples.

On the OP's post, we are missing a valuable resource for selection - why is the focus automatically a NEW gun every time? You want known US made goods, buy used guns. It is interesting to note, tho, that the OP wants a truly 100% American made gun - in a German cartridge. Nobody has pointed that out yet.

I have a 100% US made gun in a US designed cartridge - a S&W 4566 TSW. Excluding the bulk of US makers and then choosing a foreign designed cartridge doesn't seem consistent if the goal is made in the USA. BTW, S&W was known to be hobbing the gears for HD transmissions - there are very few manufacturers who do everything 100% in house. Because of that you never know if one lot or another has foreign materials in it. Even Colt has their AR forgings done by others.
 
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all steels are imported now, so good luck on this.

sti would be the closest gun to what the op wants, imo.

murf
 
Oolong said:
In order of importance.
1. The gun has never entered america.
2. The gun shoots 9mm.
3. The gun is decent.
4. It's not funding ******* countries.
5. Bayonet.
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In my country, we typically capitalize "America."

At any rate, numerous suggestions have been supplied to the lazy OP and he's not deigned to respond, with only one exception, to several of them, so at this point, I'm regarding his thread-starter as simply another drive-by troll post (and he must have known by his few and sly follow-up comments to his OP that a thread that should be about firearms would devolve into socio-economic-political drift)..

Kudos to Honor Defense for its efforts in employing American vets producing quality American products.
 
Really happy with my Springfield 9mm 1911 loaded, don't know if all of it was made in the USA or not.
 
Dudedog said:
Really happy with my Springfield 9mm 1911 loaded, don't know if all of it was made in the USA or not.
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Good gun, but I'd rather buy a gun from a non American country than a company that'd sell out gun owners and small LGS for a market advantage. Gonna take a while for me to forgive Springfield for that.

For guns owned by foreign companies but with plants in the USA (FN, SIG, Glock, Beretta, etc etc) I'm happy buying guns that were built in the US. Sure the profits might go overseas but Americans are being paid in those plants, and thats good enough for me.
 
murf said:
sti would be the closest gun to what the op wants, imo.

murf
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I thought STI was a mixed bag, with some their lower priced frames being from the Phillipines.

And it is possible to buy many things made in USA with only a small amount of effort. Guns are an easy one compared to electronics (lost cause). But I don't go down the rabbit hole of where every component comes from, but I'll squawk at the lumber yard if I can't find American wood.
 
I'm still confused, American made but in 9mm?

Why support Georg Luger and that imperialist kaiser?

Any proper American pistol should be chambered in .45, as John Browning and God intended.
 
danez71 said:
But to yout point... so much of out imports are from China and with labor rates and EPA etc, most of it is coming from China for economic reasons. It doesn't make sense to mine here and ship it to China. Conversely, mining there and shipping it here still provides an economic reason to do so.
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which brings us around to the point that the steel barrel/frame of a "made in america" gun probably came from china ... or not. hard to say, but, legally, "made in america" doesn't mean the parts are all made in america.

you hit the nail on the head with labor rates and epa.

murf
 
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