Oliver North to be the next NRA President

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Ollie is a smart move, he comes to the position with media skills and knows how to do verbal combat with liberals. I like Pete Brownell, but we never heard much from him with the recent high profile shootings, that was pretty much handled with NRA spokespeople and Wayne. Dana appeared to be more out front and maybe that was her job.

I can see Ollie taking the initiative, going on offense when these media types begin hammering on the NRA and gun owners. If you let the liberals (and media) set the narrative and tone of the discussion, you'll always be playing defense.

You have to think Ollie wouldn't have given (self proclaimed 2nd Amendment expert) Mr Hogg the foothold and traction he got. Best way to counter these liberal emotional responses is with solid facts and data in a timely manner.
 
Rembrandt said:
Ollie is a smart move, he comes to the position with media skills and knows how to do verbal combat with liberals. I like Pete Brownell, but we never heard much from him with the recent high profile shootings, that was pretty much handled with NRA spokespeople and Wayne. Dana appeared to be more out front and maybe that was her job.

I can see Ollie taking the initiative, going on offense when these media types begin hammering on the NRA and gun owners. If you let the liberals (and media) set the narrative and tone of the discussion, you'll always be playing defense.

You have to think Ollie wouldn't have given (self proclaimed 2nd Amendment expert) Mr Hogg the foothold and traction he got. Best way to counter these liberal emotional responses is with solid facts and data in a timely manner.
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We shall see
I sure hope you’re right
 
Many of you are too young to remember the congressional Contra hearings, I was pleasantly stunned to see Ollie North verbally slap down the professional politicians in those hearings. People out in fly over country were cheering him on for the spanking he gave congress. If he does the same to the antis......you'll be very impressed.
 
" You also don't want the face of gun rights being known as a shady cloak and dagger political type."

Like NRA board members Col. Rex Applegate (OSS in WWII, CIA in the Cold War) or Col Robert K. Brown (who brought the first 5.45x39 tested in the US from Afghanistan)?
 
No better choice to be a figurehead for the premier gun rights organization in America. What a patriot! Respects the rule of law, honesty, integrity and the personal courage to do what’s right legally and morally!

Except some of his public service...besides that, he’s good to go.
 
President is a bit of a figurehead position. It wants someone used to, and capable of, making inspiring speeches (which includes preaching to the choir without boring the choir). So, Ollie makes some sense.

Really, I was kind of off the fence, not caring a white either way.

That is until today, when I started seeing the lefties start foaming at the mouth about the selection. Anybody that has the drumbeaters this riled cannot be all bad for our cause. Honestly, I've not seen this much handwringing by the usual suspects since Chuck Heston was elected.
 
Oliver North was an operator before there was such a thing.

If you think that's a bad thing then he won't fit your idea of a PR guy for the NRA. One thing is for sure, he understands politics. He may not be the boy scout everyone would like to see running the NRA but he knows how to get things done.

Everything that he did is still being done today. Military aid is still being given to nefarious regimes and falling into the wrong hands. The only difference is it's being done with the blessing of congress. Pakistan is a good example.

It's kind of ironic that Eric Holder did the same thing that North did but congress never held him accountable. Funny how one guy gets prosecuted and another guy just retires with benefits.

I think he's the right guy to roll around in the mud with the liberal media. He's been around the block a time or two.
 
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I can't see how this does anything positive for the cause. It seems like he just brings a whole lot of baggage with him, and not a lot of upside to balance it.
 
Many of you are too young to remember the congressional Contra hearings, I was pleasantly stunned to see Ollie North verbally slap down the professional politicians in those hearings. People out in fly over country were cheering him on for the spanking he gave congress. If he does the same to the antis......you'll be very impressed.
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I remember those hearings and that is exactly what happened, he won most of the people over who listened to him. Ordinary people were glued to their TVs watching congressional hearings (and highlights of the hearings) for a week... That is how compelling he was.... He was a guy that was there to get things done as he saw fit to do them. In the political climate of the day that made him refreshingly unique... Those on the far left who already hate the NRA will claim North's Presidency as further evidence to support their preconceived notions that the NRA is an "evil right-wing institution" but I figure that bunch is already a lost cause anyway... He may have some baggage but I think overall he will be an effective spokesman for the NRA to those on the fence in the middle.
 
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I will admit that North has extensive media experience, including as a talk radio host...a job that will turn people into formidable debaters.

I'd still rather have Kim Rhode shoving six Olympic medals down some leftist's gullet.
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I agree, but lefties probably don't think much of Olympic medals -- after all, Olympic medals represent hard work and personal achievement, and worst of all are awarded without regard for membership in anointed victim classes.
 
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Hey, Hokie, sorry to get a little uptight about it... I just get sick of the left playing these games. He may be a great choice but to select him because he is a well spoken black guy is not the right way to go IMO. I don't want to play the same games as the left which does divide our country.. Again, I get your point but..... no... Again, sorry for the rant...
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Not to belabor the point but the left is not going to like anyone that assumes the post of President of the NRA. The main job of the President of the NRA is to rally the troops not to please the opposition. That is a fools errand.

I have a good friend that is an avid hunter and gun owner. He hates the NRA. Why? Because about 10 years ago a lady was hit by a stray bullet from a hunter that took an ill-advised shot. The lady sued and won but the NRA didn't get involved. So this is why my friend doesn't like the NRA.

What my friend doesn't want to understand is that the lady didn't sue due to the 2nd amendment. She actually sued the landowner for not supervising the hunter that he had allowed to hunt on his land. There was nothing to do with the RKBA, it was a civil liability lawsuit.

Also, what my friend doesn't understand is that it isn't generally the national NRA organization that gets involved in actual court cases, rather it's the state NRA affiliate, in this case, The Pennsylvania Rifle and Pistol Association. Also, the purpose of the NRA is not to be a free legal resource for anyone (including non-members) involved in any kind of legal pickle that has firearms somewhere in the equation. Had the above mentioned lawsuit put existing case law to the test then the state affiliate would have stepped in to assist but most likely on appeal. Or had the incident spurred state lawmakers to introduce legislation to further restrict gun rights. So my friend is very badly misinformed on the role of the NRA and will not listen to the facts and thus change his mind. Sometimes we are too stubborn for our own good. I am convinced that he simply doesn't want to pay $35.00 to be a member and is trying to rationalize that lack of action.

It is my opinion that not only should gun owners be members of the NRA, they should also be members of their respective state affiliate. I gladly support The Pennsylvania Rifle and Pistol Association, since they are the ones that get involved in steering legislation at the state level. I also belong to the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, the state NRA affiliate for NJ. I shoot matches in NJ and thus want to support the 2nd amendment causes in that state.

And before anyone asks, yes I'm a member of GOA. While the NRA is annoying in their constant fund raising, GOA is annoying in that they are somewhat disorganized. But both, flawed as they are, are fighting the good fight and we should all be members.

End of lecture.
 
"... it isn't generally the national NRA organization that gets involved in actual court cases ..."

That is true. The main NRA lobbying arm is the Institute for Legislative Action (lobbying the legislative branches, federal and state, on bills); NRA does not have an Institute for Judicial Action (litigating the judicial branches). There are other gun rights groups for judicial activism.
 
The NRA President is a powerless figurehead, like the Queen of England. Traditionally, such positions are filled with non-controversial people. Oliver North is the epitome of controversy. Bad choice.
 
You can forget about the radical left. They hate anything and anyone connected with the NRA including members like you and I and no one is going to chance their mind. Our only hope is convincing middle of the road non shooters to join us even if it's only in voting for pro second amendment politicans.

Every time I see an NRA thread come up I see posts from people complaining about their fund raising. Where do you think the money for them to work for us comes from? Unlike the government that collects taxes or else they have to depend on their members generosity for their funding. If you don't like mail and phone requests it's a simple matter to make a phone call or e-mail requesting they stop and they will. It would really be nice if all the coat tail riders would ante up and join and the NRA would have lot more political clout than they do now. It's only thirty five bucks a year to help preserve your right to own firearms. That's less than a decent meal for two at a cafe.
 
If we wanted an infamous gun runner as our president we could have gotten Eric Holder. The end result would be about the same, except that the press would be glowing in their approval. Good thing that the presidency is largely a figurehead position...except that we still have milquetoast LaPierre calling the shots.

Maybe North can get Fawn Hall to be his secretary again, assuming her crack cocaine addiction hasn’t flared back up.
 
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