Lovex powder.

I have used Clean Shot for 9mm and .45acp.
Same data as Accurate #2 (verified).
It’s good stuff.

Shooters World imports it. Powder Valley sells it.

I would use the Lovex data to be safest.
D32-03 is the Lovex number for Clean Shot.

No other info on the other powders.

Not much but I did buy a pound of Shooters's World Ultimate Pistol, made by Lovex, at a gun show a few month's ago. Was thinking of using it for some 9mm self defense loads with 124 gr gold dots. Figured I'd need to load it to higher velocity than my practice loads. Burn rate seemed similar to Unique and Ramshot Silouette. There's some loading data online but not enough to make me feel confident using near max charges. Finally decided to use Unique instead of Ultimate Pistol.

D036-7 is the Lovex number for Ultimate Pistol

The Lovex company has been making powders for a long time and at one time, provided some powders to American companies. I think you can count on good quality and results if you follow the recommended data.

bornintheeu said:

Lovex powders ... if ... these powders are worth the others, for example Vitha
Because the price is interesting (I live in Europe)

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I have Shooters World Clean Shot/Lovex D032-03, Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03 and Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07 on hand but haven't had a chance to do any load development or comparison testing. If you are interested in any of these powders, I could do some testing for you.

I also have Vectan Ba 9 1/2 and Ba 9 which should be available in Europe and did my testing on this thread - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ectan-ba-9-5-ba-9.817796/page-2#post-10519646

Let me know.

Below is "my" grouping of powders by relative burn rates - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...s-and-discussions.778197/page-8#post-10163949


Faster burning pistol powders:

No. 2 - Bullseye - Clays - WST - Red Dot/Promo - 700X - TiteGroup - Solo 1000 - Am. Select - International - Trail Boss - PB - N320 - AS - Ba9 1/2 - S015 - D032

No. 5 - W231/HP-38 - Zip - Green Dot - SR7625 - N32C - A1 - S020 - D036

Slower burning pistol powders:

Unique - Universal - BE-86 - Power Pistol - WSF - N330 - Ba9

HS6 - AutoComp - CFE Pistol - Silhouette - Long Shot - Herco - 800X - True Blue - N340 - 3N37 - A0

No. 7 - SR4756 - Blue Dot - N350 - SP2 - Ba7 1/2 - D037.1


And listing of powders that are comparable - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-different-labels.797388/page-6#post-10806193

- Accurate No. 2 and Shooters World Clean Shot/Lovex D032-03 (Should be close to Vectan Ba 9 1/2)
- Accurate No. 5 and Shooters World Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03 (Should be close to Vectan Ba 9)
- Winchester AutoComp and Shooters World Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07
- Accurate No. 7 and Shooters World Major Pistol/Lovex D037-01
- Accurate No. 9 and Shooters World Heavy Pistol/Lovex D037-02
- Accurate 5744 and Shooters World Cowboy/Lovex D060-01
- Accurate 1680 and Shooters World Blackout/Lovex D063-02
- Hodgdon H335 and Shooters World AR Plus/Lovex D073-04
- Hodgdon CFE223 and Shooters World Match Rifle/Lovex D073-06

If you are looking to compare VihtaVuori to Lovex pistol powders, you are essentially comparing N320 to Lovex D032-03, N330 to Lovex D036-03, N350 to D037-01.

If you are looking for loading lighter target loads, you are looking at D032-03 or D036-03.

I've used Lovex D032 (ie Accurate #2) in 357mag with good results using a 158gr lead bullet. Take note that this is more of a gallery/cowboy load and not a full power load.

It's a very fine ball powder and meters like water in powder hopper like the RCBS Uniflow. I'd keep it away from automatic powder tricklers as the powder gets into the mechanism and is a right PITA to clean.

I never heard of Lovex powders... I need to get out more.


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NapalmMan67 said:

I never heard of Lovex powders... I need to get out more.

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Have you heard of IMR Target, IMR Red, IMR Green, IMR Unequal, IMR Blue? In my initial testing, IMR Target has produced small enough 25 yard groups to rival other popular powders for accuracy. I am looking forward to powder comparison testing once torrential rainfall stops using a scoped prototype machine pistol rest.

I am planning to compare Bullseye, Promo, Clean Shot/Lovex D032-03, WST, Vectan Ba 9 1/2, Titegroup, IMR Target, Sport Pistol, W231/HP-38, W244, Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03, Unique, BE-86, WSF, CFE Pistol, AutoComp, Ba 9, Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07.

bds said:

Have you heard of IMR Target, IMR Red, IMR Green, IMR Unequal, IMR Blue? In my initial testing, IMR Target has produced small enough 25 yard groups to rival other popular powders for accuracy. I am looking forward to powder comparison testing once torrential rainfall stops using a scoped prototype machine pistol rest.

I am planning to compare Bullseye, Promo, Clean Shot/Lovex D032-03, WST, Vectan Ba 9 1/2, Titegroup, IMR Target, Sport Pistol, W231/HP-38, W244, Auto Pistol/Lovex D036-03, Unique, BE-86, WSF, CFE Pistol, AutoComp, Ba 9, Ultimate Pistol/Lovex D036-07.

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No, not heard of those either. I haven't bought any powder for about 10 years. Still working my way through 20+ pounds of 231/HP38 I bought years ago- makes me realize I need to get out and shoot more.

During the "Great Component Shortage", many reloaders had to resort to using powders less popular or unknown to get by.

To save more popular powders on hand like W231/HP-38 (which I gladly shared/PIF with other reloaders in need), I tested and used less popular and unknown powders for my 9mm/40S&W/45ACP pistol loads like Herco for 9mm/40S&W and Promo for 9mm/45ACP along with Green Dot for 9mm/45ACP.

During this time, we also identified same exact powders like W231/HP-38, W296/H110 etc. along with many other "comparable" burn rate powders that could be used as close substitutes - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-different-labels.797388/page-6#post-10806193

I hope the extensive listing of same/comparable powders will help members identify usable powders when making purchases now or substituting when more popular powders are not readily available in the future.

i use clean shot in place of titegroup. shooter's world powder is great powder and priced right.

NapalmMan67 said:

No, not heard of those either. I haven't bought any powder for about 10 years. Still working my way through 20+ pounds of 231/HP38 I bought years ago- makes me realize I need to get out and shoot more.

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There are a fair few powders which are not REACH compliant (a European Union regulation) as they contain chemicals which are banned. Powders which are non-compliant will lose their CE marking which means they cannot be imported into Europe.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration,_Evaluation,_Authorisation_and_Restriction_of_Chemicals

The aforementioned IMR powders were released a couple of years ago and ARE REACH compliant. This means that they can achieve CE marking and be shipped into Europe. The more you know!
https://www.ammoland.com/2016/11/imr-legendary-powders-releases-new-imr-family-of-powders/

drband said:

I would use the Lovex data to be safest.

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Truth! I found that, using SW Auto Pistol. The charge numbers on the front label, for 230gn 45acp, looked high to me, and higher than the Lovex data.