The Ruger "Carryhawk"

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In an ironic twist of fate, my latest "packin' pistol" is a large frame .45 convertible Blackhawk. I've always wanted a short barreled .45 convertible and have especially wanted an Old Model .357 converted to .45ACP. This is the next best thing. The stubby .45 is really a great single action cartridge. It does everything standard pressure .45Colt does, only in a much shorter case with less wasted case capacity. That short case means positive, quick ejection of empties and a 1911 magazine can be used as a speedloader. Great for carry or plinking with cheap hardball for those times you don't want to spend an hour or two at the reloading bench.

I knew as soon as I saw the Carryhawk that I would finally get me a short barrel .45 convertible, as I've been threatening to do for years. Differing a little from the standard catalog model with the steel birdshead grip frame, big dot front sight, V-notch rear sight and black nitride finish. Both cylinders are unfluted and the barrel is slab-sided. It was originally announced as a 4" barrel but is actually the standard 4 5/8". My first thought was that the birdshead grip had to go. It just doesn't work for me and I wanted to lighten it as well. Originally I had planned on an XR3-RED take-off from my .41 Blackhawk but since its announcement, Ronnie Wells has begun producing CNC machined Bisley grip frames out of brass and aluminum. I have two on hand and that is what we will end up with. In the meantime, I bolted up the XR3-RED for initial testing, slapped on some buffalo horn grips from my parts box. I've had them for years and think I've finally found a good home for them. I also swapped the steel ejector housing for aluminum and installed an 18lb Wolff hammer spring and 30oz trigger return. Next up, the sights will have to go, in favor of a standard blade front and notch rear. For now, I'm pretty impressed. It's a fun shooter and the weight has been dropped from a chunky 43oz to 38oz. With the aluminum Bisley grip frame, it will be perfectly fine with "Ruger only" .45Colt loads. I'll probably go ahead and roundbutt the XR3-RED grip frame and bead blast it, along with the ejector housing. In keeping with the black theme, I'll probably make a black holster for it as well. Probably also add a Belt Mt. #5 basepin while we're at it.

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I forgot to do a before shot, here's a web pic.

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Thanks for this Craig, it has reminded me that I really like .45 ACP in a short barrel revolver, especially single actions. Ruger has a convertible .45 Blackhawk with a 3.75" barrel and it's tempting, but I really wish they'd just make one with only the ACP cylinder because as you say, it does a lot of what .45 Colt can do in a short case. If I want to shoot .45 Colt in my revolvers, I have other choices for that including Rugers with longer barrels that really boost velocity with the "Ruger Only" stuff, but for a short barrel, .45 ACP is superb.

I would feel very well armed with a single action loaded with 6 shots of .45 ACP and the appropriate ammo.

The only thing that would make it better is if it had a rim and not .45 Auto Rim because nobody makes revolvers to use that obsolete case anymore. That's why it was such a great thing to hear that Starline came out with the .45 Cowboy Special a couple years ago, almost as short as .45 ACP, but has a rim and one that's the same thickness as .45 Colt. Nobody will ever make a revolver sized for the Cowboy Special, but hey, a kid can dream.

You bring up a good point about the weight of the Blackhawk and that's definitely not conducive for carrying, IMO, so good choices you made to lighten things up. I don't see why Ruger couldn't try an Aluminum framed Blackhawk built solely for the .45 ACP. I know the pressure is a bit higher with .45 ACP than a .38, but in a big Blackhawk sized frame with 7075 Aluminum, I can't see it falling apart quickly.

IDK, Ruger has never been concerned with chasing the lightweight revolver market, not until the LCR came about, but that's sized for .357/9mm calibers, not the .45 ACP. The thing I like most about the Wrangler is that Ruger finally decided to start making single actions out of something other than steel. Originally the Bearcat had an alloy frame, then it was changed to steel and added weight to a gun meant to be light.

While the Wrangler isn't that light, it's a step in a direction Ruger needs to make which is lower cost revolvers chambered in lower pressure (i.e. non magnum) chamberings. Obviously, an easy way to achieve this is Aluminum frames in revolvers chambered for .38/.44 Special.
 
Neat project I guess, but for the heft and size a guy could carry a good quality semiauto in .45 ACP that is just as accurate and reliable with more ammo on board and much faster reloads.
That’s not the point at all.

Let’s suggest a Glock next to get it out of the way.

Craig that looks like a great carry package, and aught to be fun bummin around the woods.

I agree on changing the grip frame. This looks much more functional, and the horn grips are a nice touch. Bird’s head grips always look disproportionately small to me on anything bigger than a Bearcat.
 
I’m sure you can figure out a way to remedy that.
I probably won't. Trying to do this one without gunsmith intervention.


Thanks for this Craig, it has reminded me that I really like .45 ACP in a short barrel revolver, especially single actions. Ruger has a convertible .45 Blackhawk with a 3.75" barrel and it's tempting, but I really wish they'd just make one with only the ACP cylinder because as you say, it does a lot of what .45 Colt can do in a short case. If I want to shoot .45 Colt in my revolvers, I have other choices for that including Rugers with longer barrels that really boost velocity with the "Ruger Only" stuff, but for a short barrel, .45 ACP is superb.
That's exactly what I want to do with the Old Model.


The only thing that would make it better is if it had a rim and not .45 Auto Rim because nobody makes revolvers to use that obsolete case anymore. That's why it was such a great thing to hear that Starline came out with the .45 Cowboy Special a couple years ago, almost as short as .45 ACP, but has a rim and one that's the same thickness as .45 Colt. Nobody will ever make a revolver sized for the Cowboy Special, but hey, a kid can dream.
Agreed. I'm going to see if the Cowboy Special fits the ACP cylinder.


You bring up a good point about the weight of the Blackhawk and that's definitely not conducive for carrying, IMO, so good choices you made to lighten things up. I don't see why Ruger couldn't try an Aluminum framed Blackhawk built solely for the .45 ACP. I know the pressure is a bit higher with .45 ACP than a .38, but in a big Blackhawk sized frame with 7075 Aluminum, I can't see it falling apart quickly.
I was surprised it was so chunky. The aluminum definitely helps, both in overall weight and balance/feel. I also think Ruger could do a lightweight frame Blackhawk.


While the Wrangler isn't that light, it's a step in a direction Ruger needs to make which is lower cost revolvers chambered in lower pressure (i.e. non magnum) chamberings. Obviously, an easy way to achieve this is Aluminum frames in revolvers chambered for .38/.44 Special.
I like the way you think!


I really like what you did with that. IMO it looks funny with the birdshead grip frame.
I agree. It looks okay with a shorter barrel but anything 4 5/8" or longer just looks weird. In shooting, they're more uncomfortable than I remember. Definitely more for carrying than shooting.


Probably special for this model since the barrel has a milled flat profile on the sides.
Ruger started putting the billboard on the bottom several years ago.


That’s not the point at all.
Yeah, I don't know why that came up at all.


Craig, your version of the Carryhawk is a major improvement over the original Ruger offering. :cool:
Thanks! I'm liking where it's headed.
 
Nicely done Craig. I'm looking forward to further iterations with Ronnie's grip frames.

I'm a big fan of "little guns". One of my favorite fun guns is a 3 1/2" round butt Freedom Arms M97 in 45 Colt/45 ACP -- it currently wears the 45 ACP cyl and it is a ton of fun and quite accurate.

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Paul
 
Craig,

Have you measured the cylinder diameter of a 3-screw Blackhawk in 38/357 to see if it will take six 45 caliber chambers? I haven't owned an OM Blackhawk in a number of years but I would have thought it was maxed out at 43 caliber (44 Special) and too small for the 45.

Dave
 
CraigC

Really like the improvements you've made to your Carryhawk! I never have been a big fan of Ruger's birdshead grip as it's just not a good fit for my hand. Really like the look of the buffalo horn grips you have on it now and can hardly wait to see the rig you come up with to tie this altogether!
 
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