RCBS "Rebel" Press.

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Is it competition for the:
Redding 700 Ultramag Single Stage Press?
Is it designed for large rifle cartridges like the Redding?
 
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Information that is always omitted is the new Rebel press a cam over press or a non cam over press? I sent a stack of instructions to Unclenick, I can assume he never received them, and then there is the possibility he does not agree with the instructions.


Rembrandt included a picture of a cam over press, one of my favorite presses is the 6 position Herter turret press. It is a great press for forming cases, I installed a forming die on one position and a full length sizing die into the next one; if I was going from 30/06 to 8mm57 to 7mm57 I would line the dies up in three straight holes. And then there is the 257 Roberts. And then there was trimming, there is nothing like the man tool, the hack saw when trimming.


When I used one of my Herter presses I had to adjust the die differently than when I used one of my RCBS Rock Chucker presses because my Rock Chucker presses do not cam over.


It is impossible to get a reloader to examine a press; all of my Rock Chucker presses lock up, the lock up prevents the Rock Chucker from camming over. The cam over prevention design puts the ram into a bind; you will have to take my word for it but when reloaders think they are camming over they are pushing the ram to the rear of the press. That means nothing to anyone but when I wedge the ram back at the bottom the top of the ram moves forward.


I could say something like "think about it" but that has never worked but I still ask; how does a reloader expect the ram to align with the die whole the ram is being pushed forward? The obvious answer is It doesn't. When I want my ram to align with the die I place a case into the shell holder because the case aligns the ram with the die.


F. Guffey
 
Well to be more accurate....

It is another one of things "I can not believe". I would like to take both actors in the video seriously but both claimed they could not corral the primers in a Rock Chucker press, after all these years?

F. Guffey :
 
I do believe the picture comparing the size of the two presses....that was my only reason for showing it. Actors are like politicians....believe them if they speak the truth, but do your research first to see that they are.

I have no problem with my Rock Chucker.....it will outlast me. Primers? The fix was easy once someone told me on the internet that there was a problem.....after 40 years using it and not caring. ;)

But I fixed it anyway so I could learn how to make a video......and combined it with a case kicker so I could deprime pretty fast to prep brass for tumbling with pins. I didn't used to do any of that either.....dull stained brass and dirty pockets made good reloads....got bored I guess.......what can I say, I'm addicted to new projects......the latest....a Lee APP. Fun little thing.....

 
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Roll up your sleeves, show up earlier, produce a better product cheaper, faster and better than the competition.

Produce a better product? Check.
Produce a better product cheaper and faster than the competition? Possibly.
But, I would rather buy Redding than skimp a few pennies when that cheaper quality isn't better.
 
I called rcbs today, there closed down. Did send a e-mail, they got back about the part I needed quick. I forgot to ask about the press tho. Don't know if they can answer that type of questions.

I am asking where it's made, anyone have any other questions about the rebel for when I e-mail them again.
 
Just about everything rcbs is chinese manufacture now, presses, scales.
From the complaints about their dies not being the same in fit and finish lately I am guessing they sourced those out too.
Speaking of RCBS quality....Has anyone had an issue with a R.chucker going out of alignment??
 
no seals on the booms, dippers and buckets because there in the dirt, that's why 6-8 hours you stop and grease to push dirt out. Not much grease is needed it it does not get contaminated, example is sealed ball joints can last much longer the greasible ones not greased properly.
I think it's a nice touch to have a zerk on a press not have to use it if you don't want to. The grease can keep things snugged up, having the handle drop when your finger is near the threads hurts.
There are seals on buckets. Been installing them on cats for decades. Doubt they are on a reloading press as most folks would quickly blow them out
 
I looked at the box for my Rock Chucker IV and it shows made in the USA. It's the newest version but I'm not sure how old it really is. Hopefully these new Rebel presses are being produced here.
 
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/turret-presses.865999/#post-11445997


Information that is always omitted is the new Rebel press a cam over press or a non cam over press? I sent a stack of instructions to Unclenick, I can assume he never received them, and then there is the possibility he does not agree with the instructions.


Rembrandt included a picture of a cam over press, one of my favorite presses is the 6 position Herter turret press. It is a great press for forming cases, I installed a forming die on one position and a full length sizing die into the next one; if I was going from 30/06 to 8mm57 to 7mm57 I would line the dies up in three straight holes. And then there is the 257 Roberts. And then there was trimming, there is nothing like the man tool, the hack saw when trimming.


When I used one of my Herter presses I had to adjust the die differently than when I used one of my RCBS Rock Chucker presses because my Rock Chucker presses do not cam over.


It is impossible to get a reloader to examine a press; all of my Rock Chucker presses lock up, the lock up prevents the Rock Chucker from camming over. The cam over prevention design puts the ram into a bind; you will have to take my word for it but when reloaders think they are camming over they are pushing the ram to the rear of the press. That means nothing to anyone but when I wedge the ram back at the bottom the top of the ram moves forward.


I could say something like "think about it" but that has never worked but I still ask; how does a reloader expect the ram to align with the die whole the ram is being pushed forward? The obvious answer is It doesn't. When I want my ram to align with the die I place a case into the shell holder because the case aligns the ram with the die.


F. Guffey
It is another one of things "I can not believe". I would like to take both actors in the video seriously but both claimed they could not corral the primers in a Rock Chucker press, after all these years?

F. Guffey :
I sure miss Mr. Guffey
 
The only press I refer to as a cam over press (that I own) is a Harrell’s compact press where the ram doesn’t stop at full height , rather continue into a down stroke like an engine.
 

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