Why did Springfield Armory hi-jack the Springfield name?

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Springfield Armory is based in Croatia, decent small country, and they make great pistols (XD series). The Croatian military uses said pistols.

They are not the same Springfield Arsenal which famously produced arms for the US military for a long time. Springfield Armoy taking the Springfield name alone doesn't mean much, but here they are producing 1911s, M1 Garands, implying to the common purchaser that they're the same Springfield that produced the arms of old. Why is this? Am I right in saying they hi-jacked the name on purpose knowing that most Americans won't think any different?
 
Springfield Armory isn't based in Croatia. They just import pistols from Croatia to sell here in the states, among their other products.

They bought up the rights to the name and their flaming bomb insignia after the government shut down the original Springfield Armory. It absolutely was a marketing decision. Manufacturer names, especially ones with history dating back to the 18th century, have lots of cachet with the buying public.

It is a bit disingenuous for them to use the slogan "Since 1791"
 
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Last I heard, the M1A receivers are investment cast in Canada, imported as rough castings, then final machining and heat treating is done somewhere in the U.S. so that they don't need stamp marks as imported firearms. The rest of the parts come from all over the place. Used to be mostly USGI M14 parts, but as the supply dwindled they began to use more and more foreign sourced parts to complete the rifles.

I don't know where they get their 1911 frames and parts from.

SAI is similar to Magnum Research in that they don't really make much, if any, actual hardware in-house. They are mostly an importing, assembly, and marketing company.
 
Forgotten Weapons has a vid about this on youtube.

I think they have removed the "since" part on their logo due to questions. Just says 1791 now I think.

I'm not a fan of them nor the Xd series as I recall when the HS2000 was on store shelves for a very reasonable price. Then, SAI started to import them and pretty much doubled the price for stamping their logo on them. They could have gone up $100 and made money while keeping the market for plastic guns nicely priced but instead took them up more like $200 or about double what they were in the late 90's. I know, its capitalism and a free market, but I have since not bought anything from SAI and likely won't.
 
The Springfield 1911 I bought NIB in 2009 (loaded stainless) is stamped on the frame "made in brazil-imbel".
 
The "new" Springfield Armory started out as an importer/distributor/reseller. It bought the rights to the Springfield Armory name/trademark. For awhile they made absolutely nothing--in fact they had no manufacturing facilities, they rebranded and sold guns made by other companies. Imbel, in Brazil made some of their guns. HS Produkt, in Croatia made the XD line. Generally good stuff, but not made by Springfield Armory. They have expanded their operations and now, I believe, do actually have some manufacturing capability.

That kind of thing is not really unusual. Walther, for awhile, had a French company named Manurhin making their pistols.

Armalite is also not the same company that designed the original AR series. Eagle Arms bought the Armalite name some years ago. For awhile, they were selling a variant of the CZ-75 that was made by Sarsilmaz, in Turkey.

The company "Browning" used to (may still) have guns made in various places by various other companies. FN made some, Miroku made some.

I don't really have a problem with companies doing that kind of thing as long as they don't deny it or make blatant attempts to mislead people. The new incarnations of Springfield and Armalite have both used, in my opinion, slogans that were misleading. Armalite, to their credit, has changed theirs.
 
I don't really have a problem with companies doing that kind of thing as long as they don't deny it or make blatant attempts to mislead people.
Yeah, this logo has always been a minor point of annoyance for me.

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By using it they are suggesting that they have been in business since 1794 and are, indeed, the original entity. :scrutiny:

Their choice of using that has always left a lingering doubt in the back of mind as to just how much I can actually trust such an organization, y'know?

A niggling thought, at the most, but present, none the less.
 
Branding works. Brands have been counterfeited as far back as I can remember. Branding of foods really took off after the American Civil War, these are some of the earliest food can labels.

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Notice the label tells you how to prepare the corn, as people back then, bought fresh food, or dried food out of a barrel at the grocer. The label, can, or box, assured the customer that what was in the can or box was unadulterated. Until the food and drug act, you could not be sure of anything sold over the counter.

Mary had a little lamb,
And when she saw it sicken,
She shipped it off to Packingtown,
And now it’s labelled chicken

Mary Had A Little lamb And Now Its Labelled ‘Chicken’


Established brands are incredibly powerful. Most brands are in fact, marketeers. These are companies that specialize in developing products, selling products, but they don't make the product. Every single electronic device you have, for example Apple, Apple does not own a computer factory. The spray WD40, the company that sells the stuff has a formula, which they put out for bid. The WD40 company does not have a petroleum distillery, nor a cannery. These are capital expensive things, and why should they? Companies that try to be excellent in all things find, they can't.

Tesla Should Pull an Apple: Leave ‘Production Hell’ to Other People
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So why would the guys who made the M1a (in Devine Texas) buy the Springfield Armory brand?: Because the brand was established and the average customer does not know that the Illinois firm has not been in operation since 1796 nor is located in Springfield Massachusetts. I suspect the average customer could not find both Massachusetts and Illinois on a map. If they lived on one of those states they probably could get that question half right. Some of the time. Take away their cell phones and they can't find their way home, never mind any of the states of the Union.

Now why would Armscor promote the Rock Island brand as its own?. Rock Island Arsenal still exists, and none of the Armscor products are made in Illinois, the pistols are made in the Philippines .None of them are labeled as Rock Island Arsenal, instead the brand is Rock Island Armory. Armscor understands their customer does not know the difference between an Armory and an Arsenal and one is the Government facility and the other is just a brand name giving the illusion of being a Government entity. In fact, what brand owners know, is that their customers are very hazy about facts, acting on rumors and fuzzy impressions. They model their customers as simple creatures, acting only on their basest instincts and desires.

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Sometimes this blows up in the face of the brand. Schlitz beer was the most popular beer in America. I talked to a guy who worked for the beer industry, and the beer industry thinks of its customers as beer addled swizzling idiots. Schlitz decided to make more profit by changing its beer process, and found out, the customer thought they could taste a difference. Schlitz is not a major brand anymore. Oops!
 
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You guys got me curious enough to even take the grips off my SA 1911-A1 purchased in the 1980's. There is no country of origin marked on it at all. On the right side, it says "Springfield Armory Geneso IL USA. and the serial number. That is it, for that matter, there are no proof markings.
 
the last "real" Winchester made in the USA in 2006.

Even before 2006.

Winchester hasn't made guns since 1980. A group of investors (United States Repeating Arms Company) bought the company and the rights to the name in 1980. FN bought them out in 1989. They used the same factory until 2006, but it wasn't owned by Winchester. Today all of their firearms are made in Portugal, Japan, and China
 
To capitalize on the history and reputation of the THE REAL US Govt. Arsenal that closed in 1968. ArmaLite (Eagle Arms) did the exact same thing by capitalizing on the history of the real ArmaLite (Costa Mesa California) achievements.
 
You guys got me curious enough to even take the grips off my SA 1911-A1 purchased in the 1980's. There is no country of origin marked on it at all. On the right side, it says "Springfield Armory Geneso IL USA. and the serial number. That is it, for that matter, there are no proof markings.

Content laws have been diluted to the point that if an "American" packs the item in a box, it can be labled as "Made in America". When I grew up, "Made in America meant 100% American made materials and content. For the generations that fought and died for this country, the off shoring of American industry really upset them, and they did not like seeing items labeled "made in Japan", or worse "made in China". So to keep them happy, the content laws were diluted. Companies settled in the space between Mexico and the US, had cheap Mexican labor assemble products, and it is labeled "Made in America". Chinese workers were imported into Guam, under slave labor conditions, and because Guam is a US territory, everything that comes out of there is labeled "made in America". All Western countries have done this, I read the typical German knife, almost nothing is actually made in Germany. Some of the knife is assembled by Germans, and so, the knife is stamped "made in Germany".

But this is what you want. You want to be paid less, you want the future to be worse than the past, you want to wait in line for medical masks until Chinese factories fill everyone's orders.This is what you want.

As I understand the frames and slides were forged in Brazil and final machining was done in Illinois. But how much machining ?, don't know. Maybe some polishing, maybe a file swipe or two.

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OP,

They do not sell M1 Garands. They sell M1As...a civilian version of the M14.

SA did sell Garands with cast receivers. They could not compete with the better made GI Garands that the CMP is selling. I actually handled their receivers and rifles on Commerical Row at Camp Perry.
 
True story.........
About five or six years ago a new customer came in to pick up his new Springfield XD. He brought his brother with him. I remember the conversation went something like this:
Brother: "Why didn't you get a Glock?"
Buyer: "I wanted a gun made in America"
Me: "Look at the top of the slide"
Buyer: "Well @#$%!"
Brother: "Ha Ha!"
 
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