AR 15 Recommendation

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If I was doing it again and had that budget I'd get a BCM.

Plus, it's made up here in Cheesehead land, and you Flatlanders know everything is better up here :neener:

Supporting businesses in my soon to be home state is one of the things I'm thinking. My son and daughter in law just bought a house by Turtle Lake and we're moving to the Lake Geneva/Elkhorn area next summer.
 
Thanks for the feedback. While I'm knowledgable enough with handguns to do basic work on them such as replacing triggers and sights I'm a complete novice in regards to AR's. I'd be comfortable trying a build for a range gun but not for a home defense gun. My concern is that I don't know enough to even ask the right questions in regards to ordering parts.

I've heard good things about Rock River Arms but can't support them after what they did here in regards to 2A legislation. I'm liking what I see from Bravo Company and SOLGW and am open to other suggestions.

Man, I've been trying to find it, but I can't. There's a thread around here some place where guys posted pics of their ARs and parts lists and explained why they used those parts.

Building an AR isn't hard. What is hard is understanding the role of all of the parts so that you have an idea of what went wrong when it won't run right. Many refer to ARs as tinker toys. I've done this myself, but it isn't quite that simple. Like I said, if you get the parts and you got all good parts and it runs right, you're golden. The problem is when things don't run right, you need to know what to consider.

For me, when I build an AR and it jams every so often (once every few hundred round even) and I can't trace the problem to ammo, it isn't running right.
 
Supporting businesses in my soon to be home state is one of the things I'm thinking. My son and daughter in law just bought a house by Turtle Lake and we're moving to the Lake Geneva/Elkhorn area next summer.

You could also look into ADM. If you head up to Sun Prairie there is a gun store, Top Pack Defense, the owner Tony is an awesome guy, anyways, he stocks BCM, ADM and a few other quality tiers of rifles. He had a several dozen police trade in Colt ARs, he upgraded most the surrounding area police units with BCM.
 
You could also look into ADM. If you head up to Sun Prairie there is a gun store, Top Pack Defense, the owner Tony is an awesome guy, anyways, he stocks BCM, ADM and a few other quality tiers of rifles. He had a several dozen police trade in Colt ARs, he upgraded most the surrounding area police units with BCM.

Thanks. None of the LGS' around here have them in stock. I'll be ready to buy it in the next 30-60 days and will head up there.
 
My concern is that I don't know enough to even ask the right questions in regards to ordering parts.
There ought to be a pinned thread on What Parts Did You(I) Use, if/when you go that route.

Prices really have plummeted in the last few years. $400 ARs are now common, and it's hard to find threads about them being "junk" either (ok, arfcom does not count, you can be flamed for just having an opinion there).

And, really, you are not buying that much more by spending more on an assembled AR. A $1600 AR is not twice as good as an $800; the only for-sure thing is that it's twice as expensive.

It's very much a sign of the maturity of the AR market that asking which is best is more a GM/Chevy/Ford/Doge/Ram question rather than "How do I know if I'm buying a Trabant or not?"

There are a ton of good suggestions in here already. Aero, PSA, BCM, ADM--really all are good.

Now, at your price point, you can easily look at POF and Colt and Brownell's. But, that's going to be down more to how do you want the thing to look. Which is a different kettle of fish, entire.

That flat-top S&W M&P15 would not be a horrible choice for HD. MSRP is only $1200, but I've seen much lower prices than that.
 
The Barrett REC7 would be worth a real hard look. The DI can be had for something close to your budget I think. Very reliable and a strong military connection.
 
BCM is excellent IF you value reliability over accuracy.

This could be kind of misleading. Although i’m sure that most would agree that reliability is more important than accuracy for a “fighting” firearm, I wouldn’t call a BCM inaccurate.

Considering what its diet is likely to be, M193 and the like is 2 to 3 MOA ammunition anyway.

There ought to be a pinned thread on What Parts Did You(I) Use, if/when you go that route.

Prices really have plummeted in the last few years. $400 ARs are now common, and it's hard to find threads about them being "junk" either (ok, arfcom does not count, you can be flamed for just having an opinion there).

And, really, you are not buying that much more by spending more on an assembled AR. A $1600 AR is not twice as good as an $800; the only for-sure thing is that it's twice as expensive.

It's very much a sign of the maturity of the AR market that asking which is best is more a GM/Chevy/Ford/Doge/Ram question rather than "How do I know if I'm buying a Trabant or not?"

There are a ton of good suggestions in here already. Aero, PSA, BCM, ADM--really all are good.

Now, at your price point, you can easily look at POF and Colt and Brownell's. But, that's going to be down more to how do you want the thing to look. Which is a different kettle of fish, entire.

That flat-top S&W M&P15 would not be a horrible choice for HD. MSRP is only $1200, but I've seen much lower prices than that.

I agree with this to an extent. You do get to a point where you are comparing apples to apples and differences are a matter taste; but there is still stuff out there that i would consider junk. What I would consider not junk is a rifle that runs and will keep running with minimal maintenance. What i mean by minimal is that it doesn’t need to be pampered. This comes from using good, in spec parts that meet minimum requirements.

For many, they will never notice the difference between a $600 AR and a $1200 AR. That’s those that MIGHT shoot 1000 rounds a year and only go out to a range with a nice table to shoot from.

Those that actually use their ARs to take classes to be prepared, strap them to the back of a four wheeler and spend time where dying is more likely than most activities, pursue more active outdoor activities or just plain shoot a lot; these people may see the difference between a $600 AR and a $1200 AR. Better small parts, like springs and rings. Better quality bolt carrier groups, better barrel steel, proper gas system, 7075 buffer tube instead of 6061, etc.

The reason I like and mention BCM a lot is because they have been around for a while and sort of have become the standard for a bang for the buck actual fighting weapon. If you were to come up with a check list of all of the necessary components needed for a good, reliable AR, you’d hit them all with a BCM.

Personally, if i was going to buy a complete AR and cost was no object, i’d probably be looking at a Daniel Defense or Noveske. I’ve also shot a few suppressed Triarc ARs recently and they were impressive.
 
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Thanks for all the responses. I ordered a BCM Mid 16 Mod 0 today. I did many internet searches and there were no BCM's to be found, at least that I could see, so thanks to sevt_chevelle for passing on Tony's name at Top Pack Defense. I talked to Tony yesterday (what a great guy) and he set one aside for me. We wrapped things up today and I'm glad I called yesterday as they're sold out as of today.

https://www.bravocompanymfg.com/specification/bcm_mid16_mod0.php
 
Dumb question time. When I purchase a new handgun I clean and lube it before shooting it for the first time. I'm assuming I do the same with the AR15? I did that with the Ruger I bought a while ago.
 
Run a jag and patch through the barrel, a line of CLP down the carrier’s rails, a drop or 3 around the cam pin, and the lugs themselves. Remember also to fully extend the bolt when re-inserting. Pictures below.

Cam pin and bolt body.
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Carrier rails, top and bottom (4).
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Bolt lugs. Twist counter clockwise to extend.
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I ordered a BCM Mid 16 Mod 0 today.
Not a bad choice at all. I normally go against the grain and counsel first-time AR buyers to (1) buy a complete rifle from a reputable manufacturer and (2) don't ask a lot of people about building a rifle because you'll get 400 different opinions.

I take mine right out of the box and shoot the piss out of it. :D
Well, I've done that too, but like TonyAngel, I now take the BCG out and hose it down ...

I have absolutely nothing to add except that a "What AR to buy" thread is as entertaining as a "What 1911 to buy thread." Nuke the bag of popcorn, grab another brew from the fridge, sit back and let the second-most judgmental group of gun guys try to justify their own choices.
 
1911 guys are #1. Although they're generally more polite than the AR guys, who tend to drop the F-bomb a lot (maybe it's a generational thing). Did you try to follow the last couple "what 1911 should I buy threads?" Every brand has their own cult of fanboys. Even the budget brands.

Actually, there is another judgmental group: those who believe that the only answer to any question about handguns starts with the letter "G."
 
I apologize in advance.

My budget is $1000 to $1500

Any $400-600 AR will do before the next panic.

:)

Not like you need a “tac driver” with a red dot anyway, cheap and runs will do the job. Good mags are more important than the name on an AR these days,
 
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Any $400-600 AR will do before the next panic.

Almost complete agreement. I build just at or above that limit, knowing that many of these ARs may be updated in the future to fit growing kids, including their growing skill level. With an RDS or LPVO they won’t necessarily realize pinpoint accuracy and that’s low on the priority list for an impromptu JIC purchase.
 
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