Well I bought some R.I.P. ammo for only $40 per 20 rounds...

They certainly do look toothy, don't they?

As for targets, I suppose anything that would make a frangible bullet....uh...frange (?) would be suitable. Perhaps steel ?

Pumpkins or watermelon. They had better explode into nothing but mist for that $$.

A big stack of fully soaked newspapers, laid sideways ! I put them is a plastic bag and soak them over night ! Am guessing a 1 1/2 foot from front to back will work for those ! It will not take many rounds to need a new stack. The soaked papers tend to mush up pretty quick

4 layer denim backed by gallon jugs of water.

CDW4ME said:

4 layer denim backed by gallon jugs of water.

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I would bet one gallon jug is all that would be needed.

Hartkopf said:

I would bet one gallon jug is all that would be needed.

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Provided the 1st jug has 4 layer denim, I hypothesize 2-3 jugs, most of bullet fragments in 2nd jug, some might strike 3rd.

https://www.luckygunner.com/9mm-luger-g2-research-rip-92gr-hp-20#geltest

Ok I forgot about the little center core piece that penetrates deeper. Looks like about three jugs would be needed to catch that piece.

Hartkopf said:

https://www.luckygunner.com/9mm-luger-g2-research-rip-92gr-hp-20#geltest

Ok I forgot about the little center core piece that penetrates deeper. Looks like about three jugs would be needed to catch that piece.

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Based on Lucky Gunner test, I revise my estimate to 3 jugs after denim.

Save the ammo. It gets such bad reviews in ballistics testing that it might become a collectors item after people stop buying it. Well not really, but it is not very good ammo when it comes to wound ballistics.

Paul Harrell meat target at 5:50.

I imagine an attorney would love to prosecute someone who uses ammo called Rest in Piece (R.I.P.)

Stubert said:

I imagine an attorney would love to prosecute someone who uses ammo called Rest in Piece (R.I.P.)

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I believe the manufacturer calls it “Radically Invasive Projectile.”

Stubert said:

I imagine an attorney would love to prosecute someone who uses ammo called Rest in Piece (R.I.P.)

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That's not what R.I.P. stands for with this ammo.

>>might become a collectors item<<

Kinda like my unopened box of "Black Talons".

I remember buying street proven, bonded JHP Winchester .40 at $20 for 50 rds a year or two ago, so seeing this thread's title makes me sad.

I'm all for supporting new things... if they make sense. RIP ammo makes no sense to me.

Best targets would be anything liquid or moist. Get the biggest citrus fruit you can cheap and watch them explode, but if that's what you wanted to entertain yourself CCI makes shotshell ammo that costs a lot less than RIP ammo does.

I know it doesn't mean rest in piece, a lawyer might argue differently. The connotation is there.

Early advertising was that it was so deadly that you only needed one or two in the gun.

Stubert said:

I know it doesn't mean rest in piece, a lawyer might argue differently. The connotation is there.

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There are dumb lawyers out there and they would be made out to be a fool in the courtroom if they tried this. I’ve seen it done by a victim’s lawyer.
My friend proceeded a vehicle, where the driver was shot with R.I.P. Ammo. The rounds went through tinted driver’s window. One came apart, the base of the bullet going through the driver seat headrest and stopping in the passenger seat. Two pieces of the round hit the driver in the neck. The second round went through the window, striking the driver in the side of the head. The bullet did not exit the other side of the head. I didn’t see pics of the bullet wound so, I can’t tell you if it expanded going through the window.

I can't imagine there would be any significant visual difference to the impact of these vs a regular hollow point on anything but meat or ballistic gel. A liquid target is just going to explode like any other hollow point. If you really want to see what these "supposedly" bad boys will do you really need to shoot them at something that will show the bullet / frag paths and compare them to an equal weight JHP.

Shooting them into a jug of water all you are going to see is the jug exploding... big deal, a JHP will also make the jug explode. What have you proven? Shoot one into a pig carcass. Shoot an equal weight JHP into the same place on a different pig carcass from the same angle using the same gun. Dissect each wound and see what the difference is? That might be meaningful. You could also try ballistic gel but I have never read any known incidences of people being attacked by beings made out of gel in anything but science fiction.

Hooda Thunkit said:

As for targets, I suppose anything that would make a frangible bullet....uh...frange (?)

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I believe that the correct technical term for that would be ''frangibilitate''.

For one of Massad Ayoob's several commentaries on the impact of weapon and ammunition names and reputations on juries, see his interview at
Massad Ayoob waxes political about machine guns, self defense
and in particular the portion beginning at 2:00 minutes going to 7:20. At 6:24 he addresses the impact of using Hornaday Zombie Max versus Critical Defense ammunition. I'm pretty sure he would say the same about R.I.P ammunition, no mater what the manufacturer may claim the initials mean.
My take: have fun with R.I.P at the range, but keep your home and self defense guns loaded with (for example) Critical Defense.

Hartkopf said:

I believe the manufacturer calls it “Radically Invasive Projectile.”

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HA, reminds me of BFR revolvers.."Big Frame Revolver"..righto...

Can't have a colorful gun, carry scary looking ammo, have a tacticool looking gun, carry your own reloads, install an aftermarket trigger, have a firearm or ammo with aggressive names, disable safeties, so on and so forth because, hypothetically, a prosecutor will claim this or that. I guess a huge demographic of gun owners who are guilty of one or more of the latter are in real trouble.

Not R.I.P. ammo, but I do carry Federal Syntech Defense 9mm ammo... It's like $7-$9 for a box of $20. Pretty much does the same thing as R.I.P. ammo except better both price wise and ballistics wise. It just isn't as tactical or has a cool name.

https://concealednation.org/2019/06...mmediately-gives-ammo-company-glowing-review/

I guess it's effective! This guy found out the hard way.