Gun demand of the late 1960's

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Back then "Gun Stores" were hardware stores, department stores, auto parts stores and pretty much any store that wanted to sell a gun.

Including my folks’ small country grocery store/gas station. Mom and Dad kept a variety of 22 rimfire ammo, shotgun shells, and a few boxes of the more popular (for western Idaho) big game ammo in stock. Plus, they would occasionally order a gun for a customer - they didn’t keep any guns in stock, but they had gun catalogs, and customers would sometimes order guns they saw in those catalogs.
I still have a couple of 1962 Winchester-Western catalogs from my folks’ country store, and the truth is, if I would have spent as much time studying my school books as I spent studying those catalogs back then, I might not have lost my student deferment for college in 1968. But I did flunk out of college early in 1968, and that’s why, by the middle of that year, I was in the Navy. Consequently, I don’t know if there was a run on guns in the very late ‘60s, but I’m pretty sure Mom and Dad quit selling guns through their store with the advent of GCA-68 anyway.
I do remember Dad stocking up on ammo for his beloved 308 Winchester sometime in the mid to late ‘60s. Somewhere between the time JFK was shot in 1963, and RFK was shot in 1968, I remember Dad filling a metal tool box full of about 30 boxes of Remington Core-Lokt (Dad’s favorite) 308 Winchester ammo. Years later, after Dad passed, Mom gave me that old tool box of ammo. There was probably 20 un-opened boxes left - about half was 150gr (for mule deer), and the other half was 180gr (for elk).
I also remember well some of the “gun control” conversations in my folks’ country store back in the mid to late ‘60s. I remember people (including myself) were pretty darned angry about politicians and other idiots wanting to take their guns because someone shot the president - a crime that neither my folks, their customers, their friends and relatives, nor I had anything to do with. Yet there was talk, even back then, of the government coming to take our guns.o_O
 
Only thing I remember of the JFK shoot, was my dad telling me I might want to consider the military cause things might go crazy,....glad he was mi8staken.
Also many years later I worked with a man who had worked his way up in the national guard in Michigan, later he used to grumble that the height of his career was being in command of the troops that went to Detroit for the riots. He wasn’t proud of that,..
 
While, in general, there were no "shortages" as we see today after Kennedy's assassination in 1963 and those of Kenndy and MLK in 1968, there was an impact on the world of firearms and firearms ownership. In the months following November 1963 the left wing Democrats immediately proposed all sorts of legislation to "fix the problem". The volume of proposed legislation at the federal, state, county and municiple level was too much to keep up with. Every month the NRA publishe a leglislative alert in the American Rifleman. That section went from a few columns to several pages. Democrats proposed legislation to do everything from abolish the sale of "mail order firearms" to registration of all firearms and firearms owners to the total abolition of privately owned firearms. From late 1963 into 1964, there was no "shortage" because the number of distributors and sellers was so large that if one supplier ran out, there were always others. In early 1964 you could still walk into a F.W. Woolworth's and find barrels of surplus rifles in the "hobby department" in at least some states. Some of the distributors that had a large mail order business, saw the handwriting on the Democrat wall and begin to divest of inventory, largely by selling to other distributors. Some distributors in bastions of Democrat tyranny like New York, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. slowly began to sell down inventory in the hope that they could relocate to a more friendly state or city (unfortunately almost none did). LBJ saw all of this as a chance to "buy" the black vote. He began pushing the Civil Rights Act to senators with the words, "if you gone along with me on this thing, we can have the (n-word) vote for the next fifty years." There are several documentaries with the recording of him saying this both from the White House and Air Force One, but the Democrats will deny it exists and call it a myth. With regard to pistols, "normal" people didn't carry handguns. In fact, a lot of police, especially small town police didn't even carry a firearm. People didn't even lock the doors on their cars or houses! Handguns were something that the veteran next door had brought back from the war, Grandpa Fred kept in a nightstand next to the bed or the fellow down the street had because he was a compeitition shooter. Yes, there were others, like the kid down the street who sold flower seeds and Christmas cards door to door so he could buy a .22 rifle or pistol, and there were the collectors who met in groups such as the Ohio Gun Collectors Assoc. or the National Muzzleloading Rifle Assoc. to buy, sell and trade in their areas of interest. Then, as 1964 turned into 1965, the situation began to calm down.

1968 changed all that! The same tired, old tyrannical Democrats got all fired up and "demanded" changes. In their minds and words, the assassinations "proved they were right all along." No, there wasn't the social media that we have today, but the major networks spread the word as fast as they could "guns and gun owners were bad," they needed to be "dealth with and controlled." As the networks cranked up the volume about the nasty, vile, vicious, bloodthirsty (yes, they used all of those terms and more) gun owners, small select groups saw the opportunity to pile on and riot. The riots of 1968 were largely driven by a relatively small group of extremists who were well financed -- just like today but Soros has lots more money. They came to town with all the equipment needed to spark a riot -- police band radios, walkie-talkies, bull horns, pre printed signs. Then there was a huge increase in sales. I was only a boy, but I was working in a gunsmith's shop. He specialized mainly in custom hunting rifles, and we generally saw fewer than a dozen customers a week. Suddenly, there was a line at the door of dozens of people asking about buying a handgun. He went from selling a few handguns a year to selling hundreds a week. Once again, there were lots of distributiors so there didn't seem to be a problem on the wholesale end. At that time there were still salesmen coming around from the distributors and even the manufacturers to take orders and even make deliveries. Groups like OGCA, which limited attendance to membership and guests saw the numbers move up dramatically. The NRA saw a large increase in membership. Many stores, most notably Sears, JC Penny's, stopped selling firearms overnight, which put additional pressure on the small independent shops. The Democrat demand for action was stronger, louder, and more vicious than ever. The major networks all produced documentaries about the "problem with guns" that cast every gun owner as a wild-eyed killer, out to murder everyone who disagreed with them, particularly those in "minority communities." All of that whipped up the fever again and there was a second wave of riots, which contributed even more to the demand for firearms, and the situation simply kept escalating. The situation began to calm down by late summer, but especially with the onset of the Democrat convention in Chicago in August. It was as if the Democrats turned a switch and the riots stopped. It was clear that they were not about to allow riots in "their town" on national tv, but the tv networks didn't get the message so the networks portrayed a few hundred protestors and professional left-wing lunatics as if there were thousands and thousands rioting all over Chicago. Once again, that pushed gun sales to new records. The little shop were I worked was beginning to have trouble getting quality firearms and began selling the cheaper imports from Spain and Italy. But it was nothing like it is now. Last week, I walked into a local range (Point Blank), just to see how things were. They usually carry a couple of hundred models of hand and long guns, but that day there were less than a dozen for sale. Interestingly, there were two guys on the range in BLM tee-shirts with shotguns sawed off at the end of the feed tube -- not even sawed of square! I spoke with an employee about that and a few minutes later the manager told me to leave.
 
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There was another factor back then that nobody has mentioned yet. In the 1960's, domestic gun manufacturers saw their sales being threatened by the huge influx of foreign surplus guns, as well the release of U.S. government surplus. If you could buy a decent Enfield (British or U.S.) or Springfield for less than $20, and chop it down to a sporter, why would you spend $100 or more for a new Remington or Winchester? The manufacturers wanted to stop imports and/or mail order sales, and so they got on board with certain gun control efforts, of the type that ended up in the GCA '68. It's no accident that the leading gun control proponent, Sen. Thomas Dodd (D-Conn.) came from a traditional gun-producing state.
 
I was 10 years old in 1968 so my perspective is a bit different. Neither my dad, nor really anyone on his side of the family were big time gun owners. Dad had his shotgun, and had inherited the ones belonging to my grandfather and great grandfather. Those were the only guns in the house until I got a Marlin 60 22 for Christmas that year.

My mothers father however, and her only brother were prolific gun owners and hunters. Unfortunately I lived too far from them and never had a chance to be influenced by them. Plus my moms dad had been gassed during WW1 and had health problems the rest of his life. He died in 1964, at the age of 64 before I really had a chance to know him.

I don't recall nearly as much concern about gun control as there was about banning hunting. The primary focus of what gun control I remember was geared toward handguns. I can distinctly remember a TV interview where the guest was calling for all handguns to be banned and claiming people would be better served by buying an M1 carbine for home protection. Times have changed.
 
Well I was a pre-teen in the mid 1960s and lived in NJ. Dad had a 12 gauge and a 38 revolver. The handgun was probably illegally possessed.
This shooting is credited as the first mass shooting.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/story-first-mass-murder-us-history-180956927/

"Howard Unruh’s “Walk of Death” foretold an era in which such tragedies would become all too common."

No matter what the media says mass shootings are rare events. I also doubt Unruh was the first person to go on a shooting spree.
 
I can recall seeing an inexpensive top-break revolver in Grandpa's tackle box, and it wasn't unusual to see one in someone's glove box. Many pickups had occupied gun racks in the rear window. Guns and knives were simply tools back then, not imbued with evil intent. Our hardware store had the cosmo'd surplus rifles and loose rounds in big bowls. Still, handguns were primarily "just in case". Long guns were much more common in the upper midwest.
 
Yes, I certainly remember the anti-gun, confiscation by legislation of the 1960s. I lived in Oregon at the time and Oregon had a three day waiting period, not for background or records check, but to prevent suicides. As if one could not commit suicide with a prior purchased firearm or with sleeping pills or rope. Later, that changed to a ten day wait.

I do not remember panic buying. Then again, I wasn't buying anything (not enough money and under eighteen/twenty-one).
However, I remember in the 1960s the U. S. population was one hundred, eighty eight million (188,000,000) people. Current estimations of U. S. population (not counting illegally present aliens) is just over three hundred, thirty one million (331,000,000) people. More people to buy up guns.
 
Those were turbulent times too, maybe even more crazy than today. Assassinations, MLK riots, Viet Nam protests, Kent state, Chicago democratic convention.

But I don't remember people wanting to buy guns for protection. In these parts a man owned 2 guns, a deer rifle and a shotgun. Varmint hunting was an excuse to get practice with your deer rifle. Serious woodchuck hunters owned something flat shooting, like a .270. I remember thinking that one of my uncles was so cool because he bought a second rifle, a .222 Rem. I think that people generally had less disposable income back then which definitely was an influence.

I also remember the gun stores requiring you to register ammunition purchases.
 
Yes, I certainly remember the anti-gun, confiscation by legislation of the 1960s.
Oh, humbug. For me, the "golden age of gun collecting" was the 1970's. (It would have been the 1960's if I had had more money back then.) The efforts at gun control were weak tea compared to what we see today.
 
The availability of guns and ammo was so much greater in the 60’s and even into the 70’s.

‘In my area I had many outlets close by within a 5 mile radius such as :

Sears
Montgomery Ward
Target
Itasco
Fed Mart, the Walmart of that time
Oshmans Sporting Goods

Then there were gun shops on top of that.

Finding guns and ammo was never a problem.
 
Oshmans Sporting Goods
Oshman's (in Austin, Texas) is where I bought my first AR-15, in 1968. It cost $215, which was a lot of money for me at the time.

In that same general time frame, I bought an M1917 Eddystone for $40 and an M1 Garand (Winchester) for $110. (I only found out later that the Garand was a reweld.)
 
You can read extensive newspaper articles online from the era.

Panic started once GCA ‘68 was taking shape. There wasn’t a run on ammo and there really wasn’t a run on guns because Assault Weapons/MSRs really weren’t even a blip on the radar until the late 1970s.

The big panic was that there’d be a national registry. That’s why you see some guns floating around from the 50s/60s with a crudely etched SSN or DL number on the slide.

The machine gun amnesty was another issue. People weren’t sure if the amnesty was a way to entrap gun owners and arrest them or not.

Concerning CCW... states like NY always have had CCW and up until the 1990s the situation for getting a CHL in NY was more favorable than traditionally “gun friendly” states like Texas.

if you read gun magazines from the 1970s, CCW is mentioned, but it’s more of a winking nod to the fact that it’s against the law and “concealed means concealed”. Realistically, prosecutions for CCW were rare if you weren’t a criminal element or had no priors.
 
Archie said:
Yes, I certainly remember the anti-gun, confiscation by legislation of the 1960s.
Oh, humbug. For me, the "golden age of gun collecting" was the 1970's. (It would have been the 1960's if I had had more money back then.) The efforts at gun control were weak tea compared to what we see today.
You have a point Alex, I should have worded it as "...anti-gun, confiscation by legislation movement and desire..."

Yes, you are correct. the current anti gun faction is much more able politically. Although the insurrection and terrorism currently displayed is countering that 'push' for a bit, anyway. It will never go away completely.
Sadly, in those days I was much more concerned about defensive handguns and current military rifles than much anything else. I didn't develop a taste for 'art' in the field of firearms until later. I didn't have much elective spending money either.
 
Panic started once GCA ‘68 was taking shape. There wasn’t a run on ammo and there really wasn’t a run on guns because Assault Weapons/MSRs really weren’t even a blip on the radar until the late 1970s.
I wouldn't describe the reaction to the GCA '68 as "panic," at least compared to what we've been seeing in recent years. People buying AR-15's were mostly collectors, like myself, who wanted a civilian-legal version of the military's M16. And remember that in the 1960's, there was little if any competition to the Colt AR-15 in that market niche. The first chink in the Colt monopoly came around 1970, when Colt's decision to temporarily withdraw the AR-15 from the market (prompted by concerns over possible uncontrolled automatic fire if the disconnector was removed) created an opening for the Armalite AR-180. Ironically, "black rifles" really became mainstream -- to the point where practically everybody wanted one -- with the passage of the 1994 AWB.
The big panic was that there’d be a national registry. That’s why you see some guns floating around from the 50s/60s with a crudely etched SSN or DL number on the slide.
Of course, in the end there wasn't a national registry included in the GCA '68. In those days, the antigunners were focused on banning handguns, and so if there had been a registry, it would have been a handgun registry. But that whole idea was dropped fairly early in the legislative process.

The electropenciled or scratched ID numbers on guns had nothing to do with registration. This was part of a campaign by some police departments to get people to put identification markings on all sorts of property (not just guns) so that it could be returned to them if stolen and then recovered. Nowadays, nobody cares if some item of obsolete stereo equipment is defaced with a number, but it sure ruins the value of collectibles like high-end cameras and guns.
The machine gun amnesty was another issue. People weren’t sure if the amnesty was a way to entrap gun owners and arrest them or not.
I have to agree with that. I remember a lot of talk among the old-timers at the gun shops surrounding the MG issue. These were veterans who had bringbacks from the war, or people who had bought DEWATs when they were readily available through the mail. I would say that a significant portion of these people felt that the amnesty registration would inevitably lead to confiscation, and so they didn't register. Big mistake, in hindsight, but I can't say they were being unreasonable at the time.
 
I was a kid in the 50's, teen in the 60's. Sears and Western Auto (where I bought my first baseball mitt) sold guns routinely. I think Sears had their own brand of rifles. Best friend showed me how he would sneak open the present under the Christmas tree so we could look at the .22 rifle he was getting. No big deal about any of this. At around 10 I knew about Dad's .38 revolver in the bedside table because of his instructions not to touch it, and to stay in bed and not come out into the hallway if I heard strange noises in the middle of the night. Dad used to take Mom down to the river bank to shoot. Yeah, no big deal in those days.
 
Drk1 wandered off into politics for no apparent reason, and we did a good job of ignoring the post. Now you are keying off that, with no regard to the original post or Robert's warning at #16 that we needed to stay away from the third rail? What do you hope to accomplish other than closing an interesting thread about the zeitgeist of the 60s?
 
I went into the service in’62 and prior to going in I purchased a Colt Scout from Sears. A friend that I was stationed with asked me if I wanted to buy a 1911 from the NRA. He was buying one through the mail for the grand total of $20.00. Dummy me turned him down as I was only interested in single actions. This response just to verify that there were no runs or shortages on handguns or rifles at that time. One thing that I want to point out is that I never remember any manufacturing problems resulting in the return of guns for manufacturing defects during that time.
 
One thing that I want to point out is that I never remember any manufacturing problems resulting in the return of guns for manufacturing defects during that time.
Maybe not exactly "during that time," but the Model 100 Winchester my mom and dad bought new for me in 1963 was recalled later on, in the 1980s, for a firing pin problem. I had already had a local gunsmith replace the broken firing pin in my own rifle by that time, so I never shipped it back to Winchester, but from what I heard, there were thousands of Model 100 owners that did.
Edited to say - a Google search showed me the Model 100 recall happened in 1990 instead of the '80s. It seems that a broken firing pin could cause a Model 100 to go full auto, or shoot multiple times with one trigger squeeze.
 
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