Cimarron ( Pietta ) 1873 Trigger Pull

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Among you owners of fairly recently made by Pietta Cimarron Pistolero or Frontier ( in this case .45 Colt ) sixguns do you know what the weight in lbs. your factory triggers are ? I've read recent Uberti models are pretty light, as low as 2 lbs which is lighter than I care for.

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I have a Pistolero in .357, not sure what the weight is but it's very light. However, I find that works well on a SAA.
 
The parameters for the question is so "wide open" it's basically impossible to say "the trigger pull is . . . on this revolver . . . especially on a mass produced revolver. Do folks really believe the trigger pulls are "set" to a certain poundage at the factory?! For under a $1000.00 ?!!! That's why you go to the "establishment near you" and check it out for yourself!! If I say it's . . . 3 lbs. , you get one because of what I said and it's 1 1/2 lbs, then suddenly I'm a liar !!! What affects trigger pull?
Mainly (see what I did there?) the mainspring and to a lesser degree, the trigger spring . . . so some Yahoo will get an aftermarket mainspring, "slick up" their "gun" and now the trigger pull is less than half what it was . . . = a dangerous situation. Yap, accidental discharge !!! Scarry !!!

The bottom line is, the trigger pull for a specific revolver is . . . whatever it is!!!

Mike
 
I have 2 Pietta pistols. They were marketed with Cimarron markings. Their trigger pull is exceptional. Light but not to light for me. When you cock the hammer you expect to shoot correct?
 
Yes but, . . . you expect to acquire the target and then fire. If having your finger "brush the trigger" while acquiring said target, and the 8oz. trigger breaks, and an A.D. happens, hmmmmmm . . .

That's why I posted what I did. If your revolver is too dangerous for S.D., who else is in danger? . . . anyone else around you!!! Think adrenaline may kick in ? Yep, A.D. big time!! Does your hammer rock backwards when you pull the trigger (POS (+) Engagement) ?

I'm not castigating anyone here, I'm just saying, the trigger pull and it's engagement are extremely important!! Not only for YOUR safety, but for those around you!!! You want to shoot the bad guy, not the good guy!!! Lol!

Mike
 
I would have to see a stock Uberti trigger set at 2 pounds from factory to believe it exists.
 
The parameters for the question is so "wide open" it's basically impossible to say "the trigger pull is . . . on this revolver . . . especially on a mass produced revolver. Do folks really believe the trigger pulls are "set" to a certain poundage at the factory?! For under a $1000.00 ?!!! That's why you go to the "establishment near you" and check it out for yourself!! If I say it's . . . 3 lbs. , you get one because of what I said and it's 1 1/2 lbs, then suddenly I'm a liar !!! What affects trigger pull?

Howdy

I agree completely. Trigger pull is governed by a bunch of things. How smooth the interface between the sear and the full cock notch is, how far the trigger has to travel for the hammer to fall, and how strong the trigger spring and hammer spring are. With a mass produced firearm such as an Italian single action revolver, you are just going to get what you get. Nobody is custom tuning the trigger at the factory.

How do you know how many pounds the trigger pull is? With one of these:

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But before you run out and buy one, you need to understand that a single action revolver trigger is just a simple lever. Like any lever, how much force it takes to move it depends on how far from the pivot point the force is exerted. Pull the trigger near its lower tip, and it will require less force and more travel to trip it, pull it closer to its pivot and it will require more force and less travel to trip it.

Generally speaking, the springs on imported revolvers are pretty strong, to overcome the internal friction of the parts. If you just change springs, the internal friction of the parts may prevent the hammer from falling hard enough to reliably set off a primer. A real trigger job consists of more than just changing springs, it involves polishing the appropriate surfaces of the parts so that internal friction is reduced. Then lighter springs can be installed and primer ignition will still be reliable. Then there are those of us who like to use Federal primers, because they are softer and will go off with a relatively light hammer fall that might fail to ignite other brands of primers. Yes, I know all about not setting up a revolver so only one brand of primers is reliable, spare me the lecture.

What a lot of shooters don't realize is that not just the strength of the trigger spring, but also how stiff the hammer spring is will have an effect on trigger pull. The stronger the hammer spring, the more it makes the cocking notch bear down on the sear (the tip of the trigger). Lighten the hammer spring a bit and that will slightly effect how much force is required to slide the sear out of the full cock notch. Also, a a slight positive angle on the notch is important. That's why trigger work should always be done by a gunsmith with the proper stones and fixtures, not by Joe Sixpack with a Dremel tool.

OK, I have had my Colts professionally tuned. Their trigger pull is right around 2 1/2 pounds, which is what I like.

P.S. I was a little bit too young to understand it at the time, but the trigger pull on Paldin's revolver in Have Gun Will Travel was supposedly set at one ounce. Many years later I realized that was baloney.
 
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For what it's worth, I have a Cimarron 4 3/4" .357mag I bought new about a year and a half ago. The trigger on it consistently breaks right at 3 lbs on a Wheeler gauge with the tip placed in the center of the trigger shoe.
 
I would guesstimate both my Pietta guns have about 2 pound triggers. I wouldn't want anything lighter, they are the lightest triggers in my collection, by about a half pound over my CZ Custom P07's SA trigger.
 
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