ontarget
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Exactly, I was going to say that, but figured someone would ask if I only load 5 in my K frames to keep the ammo box neat. LOL.
I don't BTW
Help me out with Pietta, Uberti and their re-branders, please
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Exactly, I was going to say that, but figured someone would ask if I only load 5 in my K frames to keep the ammo box neat. LOL.
I don't BTW
BigBlue 94
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Cimarron El Malo 2 made by Pietta. Great gun. Smooth 4 click C O L T action style with fixed firing pin, no transfer bar. Only complaint is it shoots low from the super high front sight.
Edit: its a 45 Colt!
Edit: its a 45 Colt!
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CraigC
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I'd love to hear some elaboration on that point.
35 Whelen
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If you're comparing a Ruger NV to Uberti produced revolvers, the NV's are not stronger at all. That's gunshop talk and internet assumption.
As to the subject of coil springs, I ran across this awhile back on one of the Smith & Wesson forums-
As an engineering professor - teaching mechanical engineering design - if the two types of springs are designed properly, there should be no difference in their reliability. Whether that is actually done will determine which will fail first, if either.
Guess that's why S&W is still using them in so many of their revolvers.
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CraigC
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When's the last time you saw a leaf spring on a vehicle fail? I would say those get more abuse than any sixgun spring.
halfmoonclip
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Have been thru' a ton of single actions over the years; still have a 70s vintage Super Bearcat.
The early Rugers were clubby but strong, the later ones inauthentic, which bugged me somehow. Had an Uberti Stampede (Beretta now owns them), which is a really great gun, but, again, inauthentic. Sold it to a buddy.
Bought a Smokewagon on the assumption that it was a traditional SAA; figured that out at home. Finally swapped it out for an Old Model hammer, and made it a four click. Simple drop in installation.
BTW, the Uberti retains the leaf mainspring, but the smaller springs are all music wire, which seems a worthwhile change.
For the OP, you should be happy with an Uberti.
Moon
The early Rugers were clubby but strong, the later ones inauthentic, which bugged me somehow. Had an Uberti Stampede (Beretta now owns them), which is a really great gun, but, again, inauthentic. Sold it to a buddy.
Bought a Smokewagon on the assumption that it was a traditional SAA; figured that out at home. Finally swapped it out for an Old Model hammer, and made it a four click. Simple drop in installation.
BTW, the Uberti retains the leaf mainspring, but the smaller springs are all music wire, which seems a worthwhile change.
For the OP, you should be happy with an Uberti.
Moon
hawg
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All I'm going to say is you couldn't give me a centerfire Ruger single action and expect me to keep it.
BigBlue 94
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Not to belittle the point, but ive had one break on a camper trailer and seen quite a few broke in the junkyards. Also quite a number of em with reverse arches from years of normal use. But ive also seen coils do the same. Both cases are usually due to them just being plain worn out.
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Unless they changed things they don’t . I spoke to them and Taylor’s about about 2 years ago and they told me that all of them have the retractable firing pin now . It’s a lawyer thing , similar to S&W ILS .
35 Whelen
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There is a lot of confusion on this subject. When the retracting firing pin came out a few years ago, I called Cimarron and asked them if Uberti had completely done away with the 4-click models. The Cimarron employee told me they had, but Cimarron still offered a 4-click model in their black powder frame. The kicker was that these were made by Pietta, not Uberti. That was several years ago and things could've changed.
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doubleh
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About 3 years before I retired. I haven't owned anything with leaf spring in years.
hawg
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My Uberti/Cimarron has a firing pin block but it has four clicks. It was made in 2000. You can see the external part just under the firing pin.
35 Whelen
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Interesting. I'd be curious to know the date code on the revolver. It will be two letters in a box and it's usually on the underside of the frame, just forward of the front of the grip frame.
Thanks-
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hawg
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CS is 2017. CN is 2015. I like my Cimarron. All the Italian markings except for the cat number are under the ejector rod housing.
CoalTrain49
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About 3 years ago on a 26' trailer that was 2 years new. I also had one fail on a 73 Dodge 4x4. Coil springs also fail. Saw that on a 90 ford van A arm. Dodge had a terrible problem with front A arm coil springs.
It has almost nothing to do with the type of spring and almost everything to do the metallurgy and how they are manufactured. The leaf springs that failed on my RV was determined to be poorly manufactured. They reimbursed me 100% for replacement. I was lucky I didn't have a roll over. The cost was way more than most Italian revolvers.
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35 Whelen
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Yep, yours was manufactured in 2015, or "pre" retracting firing pin. The one I pictured above is a 2017 production and was at the tail end of the 4-click examples.
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CoalTrain49
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I only saw 1 1/2 pages. Come on man, this isn't an election year.
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35 Whelen
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Just because it was made in 2015 doesn't mean it was sold then. Your revolver could've sat on a dealers shelf for a year or two prior to being purchased.
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