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Amusing to read but somewhat dubious of veracity.
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old lady new shooter
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Beautiful car and looks brand-new. Drive it in good health.
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They do that anyway, Jack donkeys don’t realize sometimes 40,000 lbs is slowing down early because it has to. I guess it’s not their fault, they just don’t know what they don’t know.
JTHunter
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OUCH !! I can't help but wonder what might have been the outcome if the driver would have just "floored it". The perp might have still shot but being inside the vehicle might have suRembd1243plied some protection, esp. from a shotgun. Front and rear windshields are laminated glass and, at the very least, deflect bullets slightly and cause them to miss their target. If this perp was using "birdshot" (#4) as opposed to buckshot, I wonder if much of the birdshot would have even penetrated the windshield.
Coyote3855
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I understand this and agree. However, sometimes my job and/or life requires I go places where I would prefer not to go. Double up on situational awareness, come back later if the planned stop looks shaky, don't look/act like a victim, always armed.
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A quick question:
Do your car doors automatically lock when your vehicle goes into gear? If not, do you automatically lock your doors when you enter your vehicle?
Do your car doors automatically lock when your vehicle goes into gear? If not, do you automatically lock your doors when you enter your vehicle?
JeffG
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I automatically lock the doors when I sit in the vehicle. And when I am gassing up, and in the car wash, etc.
My vehicle doors are always locked when we are safely inside.
I cannot think of a regular and typical advantage of unlocked doors.
Maybe in unlikely scenario of extracting infants from a burning car?
For adults in front seats they open immediately when inside handle is pulled.
I cannot think of a regular and typical advantage of unlocked doors.
Maybe in unlikely scenario of extracting infants from a burning car?
For adults in front seats they open immediately when inside handle is pulled.
Just something to think on, never get boxed in. When stopping at a light or stop sign or just stop n go traffic I always leave room (sometimes a full car length) for me to not be blocked in.
Also, if someone ever manages to get your door open try to throw it in reverse. You are gonna mess up your door a little/lot but you are gonna mess him up more.
Also, if someone ever manages to get your door open try to throw it in reverse. You are gonna mess up your door a little/lot but you are gonna mess him up more.
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old lady new shooter
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Automatically lock my doors when entering my vehicle.
old lady new shooter
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Me too.
We unlock them to get out and to let peopl out and let people in.
Good put.
Or into derive, but it is amazing how quickly a perp can get in.
eb in oregon
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What you choose to believe or disbelieve is not my problem. But as the guy is a retired veteran of several wars and an honorable human being I choose to believe him.
AlexanderA
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Mine (Toyota Tacoma) automatically locks the doors when the speedometer hits 15-20 mph. But the passenger door stays locked all the time unless you deliberately unlock it (separately from the driver's door).
theotherwaldo
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One thing to think about is what types of vehicles that carjackers want.
Locally, most of them want innocuous-looking pickups and SUVs to carry their drugs, border-crossers and other cargo from the border to up around the checkpoints, where they are usually abandoned.
In the big blue cities they usually want cars to sell to chop shops, to use to smash into shops, to use as get-away or drive-by cars or just for joy rides.
Other places tend to have different interests in different vehicles - construction and utility vehicles are a hot item in places like Southern California, for example.
There is even a local market for stolen Police and Border Patrol vehicles!
Just bear this in mind when you are out and about... .
Locally, most of them want innocuous-looking pickups and SUVs to carry their drugs, border-crossers and other cargo from the border to up around the checkpoints, where they are usually abandoned.
In the big blue cities they usually want cars to sell to chop shops, to use to smash into shops, to use as get-away or drive-by cars or just for joy rides.
Other places tend to have different interests in different vehicles - construction and utility vehicles are a hot item in places like Southern California, for example.
There is even a local market for stolen Police and Border Patrol vehicles!
Just bear this in mind when you are out and about... .
Here's another one. It happened before dawn yesterday, in one of the best parts of St. Louis County, MO.
Some thugs blocked the path of a driver delivering newspapers. They jumped from their car and ran back with guns drawn, covered him from both sides, and demanded that he exit his vehicle.
Instead, he hit the gas and drove around them. The thugs fired several shots at the departing car, and one of them wounded the victim.
I think I would have done the same thing. I doubt that I would have reached 100 mph in the dark on a narrow, winding road, however.
https://www.kmov.com/news/driver-sh...cle_4fbb97cc-8e55-11ec-81e5-5f424ff8d7d0.html
Some thugs blocked the path of a driver delivering newspapers. They jumped from their car and ran back with guns drawn, covered him from both sides, and demanded that he exit his vehicle.
Instead, he hit the gas and drove around them. The thugs fired several shots at the departing car, and one of them wounded the victim.
I think I would have done the same thing. I doubt that I would have reached 100 mph in the dark on a narrow, winding road, however.
https://www.kmov.com/news/driver-sh...cle_4fbb97cc-8e55-11ec-81e5-5f424ff8d7d0.html
Concur guy above did the best he could. I know of one individual personally who endured a carjacking attempt.
Sam had slowed (yet not stopped) near an intersection when an armed guy came running towards driver door.
Similar to @Kleanbore 's example from the Ladue carjacking, the guy whom I knew simply floored it.
When we spoke weeks later, he said the criminal's bizarre eyes indicated to him he would be shot either way.
He leaned towards the passenger seat and hoped to get far enough away to sit back upright.
In his example it turned out to (likely) be a .380 round and the shot pierced his front fender.
Sam had slowed (yet not stopped) near an intersection when an armed guy came running towards driver door.
Similar to @Kleanbore 's example from the Ladue carjacking, the guy whom I knew simply floored it.
When we spoke weeks later, he said the criminal's bizarre eyes indicated to him he would be shot either way.
He leaned towards the passenger seat and hoped to get far enough away to sit back upright.
In his example it turned out to (likely) be a .380 round and the shot pierced his front fender.
Elkins45
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My car is a manual, but I always thought of that more of an anti-theft than anti-carjacking feature. It would be cold comfort if the guy plugged you in anger when he couldn’t drive off.
Or if he were to tell you to drive....
One of my adult sons was involved in an attempted carjack situation a couple of years ago. Stopped at a traffic light 2nd in line. Assumed methhead runs to the 1st and attempst to enter the vehicle...she goes to the gas and pulls away so bg immediately goes to my sons truck. Obviously not a lot of SA was required through this but by this point my boy had drawn and aimed as the individual made his initial effort to enter his truck. He turned and ran thank god.
SA is always our first line of defense.
I will say this though...I hope I never have to discharge my carry weapon inside my vehicle.
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Horrible.
Very happy the driver survived. He did a good job with the police story and speeding away.
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Given a knife in hand beats a gun in the holster, I have a hard time believing it as well.
What would constitute "several" wars?
aaaaa
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Wouldn't it be nice if the jacker grabs the car door and you have a button that puts 480 volts at maybe 20 amps into the car body! Kind of like those bug zappers but on a much greater scale!
eb in oregon
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A knife against a window doesn't trump a gun inside. and "several" could include Korea and Vietnam. I myself served during Vietnam, and both Gulf Wars. With a break between Vietnam and the following two.
Sometimes preconceived beliefs are trumped by reality.
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If there's a closed window between me and the knife I'm just going to drive away
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