Accidental discharge?

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And no one has mentioned a Glock?

(with a firearm) I've never had an AD, ND, whatever; pick your favorite term.

An accident is an occurance you created without meaning to do it. Whether it was brought on through gross negligence (pulling the trigger without making sure the gun is clear) or lesser negligence (not checking as completely as possible for parts wear/malfunctioning gun) or no negligence (completely unforseeable circumstances) is irrelevant to the term "accidental discharge", as all of the above are accidents. I don't see why people get their panties in a bunch over the terminology. If you fired the gun without intending to, it was an accident... and the cause of the accident was probably negligence.

Glad to see this thread. It never hurts any of us to be reminded about safety.

Never had an AD or ND, but have witnessed a couple. After being witness, I am about as anal as they come.

Lessee....one slamfire with a CZ52. #$&* who handed it to me knew it was prone to that but didn't tell me. Luckily it was pointed downrange. And no, it wasn't funny.

When I got my first 1911, I had to unlearn something my father taught me. He was raised on DA autos, and so was I. He had the bad habit of letting his finger brush the trigger from time to time when at low ready, and I picked it up as well. Heck, it's a 10lb. pull, right? Not on a 1911

Again, luckily it was pointed downrange. I learned real fast...

Mine was on a day that I was having a migraine. I sought the more comfortable, dimmer light and quiet of my bedroom in the basement. I grabbed my FEG Hi Power to dry-fire to relax. I dry-fired for a long while, decided that I was done, and reloaded it for the evening.

The phone rang, and I went upstairs to answer it.

I came back downstairs, thought, "what was I doing? Oh yeah, I was dry firing." Sat back down, took aim again and sqeezed the trigger. Didn't even hear the report, just saw the ball of flame at the muzzle and the hole in the closet door, and I knew that I was a massive idiot.

The load was a Winchester white box 115-gr JHP that went through the door, through an internal frame backpack :banghead: , through a box of aluminum arrows, and lodged into the stud against the concrete in the back of the closet.

I am ANAL about Rule #1 now, and I have a hard time dry-firing still... that has taken a toll on my skills, but I'll come around someday. I'm anal about press-checks, too.

Some might remember how traumatized I was afterwards -- I suppose in some ways I still am. But I prefer to think that I'm "traumatized for the better." Gun safety is no freaking joke.

Wes

Eric....slamfire ? Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a slamfire ? I just bought a CZ P-01 (my first auto)....I've only had it out once, but no problems.

I have been present when it happened twice. Both witht the same type pistol. Walther P22 (POS), the safety will drop slightly while firing and cause the gun not to fire and will not extract the last round. Twice the slide has locked back as if empty, the safety being engaged prevented he live cartridge from firing and then someone pulls the trigger BANG!

Luckily they have both been pointed in a what??? SAFE DIRECTION

I had one a while back at the range. I had been shooting my SKS trying to get a feel for it's accuracy or lack there of. I loaded the mag up of 10 rds with a stripper clip. Sat down at the bench. Put the stock against my shoulder and then proceeded to release the bolt. Upon releasing the bolt, the entire mag emptied out in a few seconds. So I guess you could say it was 10 A.D.'s in a row!

The firing pin had stuck and it was slam firing. Needless to say, I was by myself so it kept the embarressment to a minimum.

Eric....slamfire ? Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a slamfire ? I just bought a CZ P-01 (my first auto)....I've only had it out once, but no problems

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You won't get one with the P-01 or any modern pistol. As I later found out, the 52s don't have a firing-pin safety. It can "drift" a bit when the slide is dropped on a live round, and I've heard of it firing when decocked as well.

fumegator, good reason not to point at the TV when dry firing as I do sometimes - good thing you weren't. This thread fits much better in GENERAL discussion forum and ought to be moved there, IMO.

I've got a good one it wasn't me though, my dad and his friend got back to their hotel room after hunting once. Well his friend is unloading his .300 win mag in the room, and holding the trigger down while working the bolt. To keep the fireing pin from cocking I guess anyways it went off. The round bounced off the cinderblock walls and out through the ceiling luckily aparently no one else was in the hotel.

Michael Moore could have a field day with this thread.

Probably, we've already had a field day just quoting you..

I'm so ronery... So ronery...

I view this as a good reminder that being a gun owner carries responsibilities.

Thanks to all for sharing.

Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a slamfire ?

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Tilden, I don't think Erik quite fully explained the concept of a slamfire. A slamfire occurs when the slide slamming home on a live cartridge causes it to discharge. It can happen from several causes. Most often, it is caused by dirt in the action, causing the firing pin to "stick" forward contacting the primer hard enough to fire it when the slide slams the cartidge into the chamber. Or a piece of dirt or metal can become attached to the slide itself, and portrude enough to discharge the cartridge. Or, a high primer on the cartridge can sometimes cause the cartridge to discharge as the slide slams home. (This latter event is almost always caused by faulty reloads.)

The best way to prevent slamfires is to keep your weapon well cleaned and lubricated, and to visually inspect each and every cartridge you load into the magazine; especially reloads.

My slamfire on my SKS was one that was due to alot of rounds being shot through the weapon. It was pretty clean at the time, but the firing pin had become worn so much it was wedged in a forward position. Enough so tha it would discharge a round. The firing pin in the SKS is free floating all the time, but mine was not! I have since replaced it with a spring assisted pin to save the danger and embarressment.

I've never had an ND but i did have to shoot a mattress that was attacking me. One 148 gr swc .38 dropped that sucker on the spot. I thought it was pretty good shooting for a ten yo. Dad wasn't impressed one bit. It was his mattress.