Man hit by bullet from gun range.

I think they need to find out exactly how far this range is. 2 miles is 3520 yards.

A .22LR can kill at 1.5 miles.

A .22LR can kill at 1.5 miles.

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No, it cannot.

No, it cannot.

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if you swallow it and choke or get lead poisoning it can.

There not going to take it out?

If it hits you in the right place I bet it would, the box says they're lethal up to 1.5 miles.

If it hits you in the right place I bet it would, the box says they're lethal up to 1.5 miles.

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CYA

Remember, you can drop a penny off a skyscraper and it will not kill someone. There is a thing called terminal velocity. After the round is fired, the bullet flies with energy that was transfered to it. A .22 falls fairly quickly because that energy doesn't last very long. They have a terrible sectional density and ballistic coefficient. If you fire it at the angle need to launch it a mile, all the energy would be used and it would free fall. The free fall is where the terminal velocity comes into play.

Something is wrong in this article. Either the distance given is totally incorrect, or it was a rifle round. There's just no way a 9mm is going to travel 2-3 miles unless you shoot it at a 45 degree angle relative to the ground, and I can't imagine a police officer being that stupid.

Hmmm, 2-3 miles away witha 9mm, and penetration......

Given the specifics of the incident and accuracy of the reporting I would question the entire shooting. Somewhere between the ribs and hip, between 2-3 miles, bullet is still in him but it's a 9mm. Somebody is pulling wool and spreading BS.

There's just no way a 9mm is going to travel 2-3 miles unless you shoot it at a 45 degree angle relative to the ground, and I can't imagine a police officer being that stupid.

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There are idiots everywhere! I have known a couple LEO's that were not too bright!

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If it hits you in the right place I bet it would, the box says they're lethal up to 1.5 miles.

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The box for .22 shorts says "Range 1 mile, be careful." That doesn't mean it'll do more than raise a small welt at one mile, but with a good tail wind it might travel that far.

I wouldn't take warnings too seriously. I have a drill with a warning label that says, "do not insert into nostril and turn on." At that distance a .22 or a 9mm would have reached velocity due to gravity (terminal velocity as said) and while that might be enough to be ouchy it wouldn't be enough to cause a wound. Sounds like one of those - I found a fingertip in my french fries - lawsuits.

Hmmm, 2-3 miles away witha 9mm, and penetration......

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And after ricocheting . . .

A new caliber debate. I guess that means a .45 will kill from 5 miles away.

.30-06 150 gr utter maximum from a 35 (not 45) deg launch is 3500 yards; M1 boattail 5400. Two and three miles, respectively, for one of the most powerful infantry rifles.
From a 9mm pistol?
No way.
Probably a drive by from somebody he offended in his city government job.

Well obviously, if it was from the Police range, then they know who was on the range and those guns can be sampled for their ballistic prints and compared against the offending bullet.

Maximum range of various rounds and velocity at that range (assuming most efficient firing angle, 30-45 degrees):

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/DomnaAntoniadis.shtml

.22 Long Rifle (40 gr RN)
Muzzle Velocity 1255 ft/s
Maximum Range 2000 yard, 1.14 mile
Impact Velocity 300 ft/s

.223 Remington (55 gr SP BT)
Muzzle Velocity 3240 ft/s
Maximum Range 3875 yard, 2.20 mile
Impact Velocity 545 ft/s

30-06 Springfield (180 gr SP BT)
Muzzle Velocity 2700 ft/s
Maximum Range 5675 yard, 3.22 mile
Impact Velocity 800 ft/s

9mm Luger (Parabellum) (124 gr RN)
Muzzle Velocity 1120 ft/s
Maximum Range 2400 yard, 1.36 mile
Impact Velocity 350 ft/s

45 ACP (230 gr RN)
Muzzle Velocity 850 ft/s
Maximum Range 1800 yard, 1.02 mile
Maximum Range, Impact Velocity 330 ft/s

44 Magnum (240 gr FP)
Muzzle Velocity 1760 ft/s
Maximum Range 2500 yard, 1.42 mile
Impact Velocity 350 ft/s

Note 350 feet per second is about the velocity of the shotgun “less lethal” rounds, that weigh 200-600 grains. Note bullet weights above.

The above does NOT mean you should be careless about what the rounds you are firing can do down range.

(Sources are listed on the page linked above.)

More than an Ouchy!

I won't volunteer to test this but if:

.22 Long Rifle (40 gr RN)
Muzzle Velocity 1255 ft/s
Maximum Range 2000 yard, 1.14 mile
Impact Velocity 300 ft/s

300 ft/s = 204 mph.


9mm Luger (Parabellum) (124 gr RN)
Muzzle Velocity 1120 ft/s
Maximum Range 2400 yard, 1.36 mile
Impact Velocity 350 ft/s

350 ft/s = 239 mph.

I wouldn't want to be in the way of either a .22 or a 9mm going over 200 mph!

The penny dropped from a building doesn't apply, it's terminal impact velocity is not that high (it flutters on the way down).

no way a 9mm went that far. Somebody is really wrong here. Somebody shoot at that guy from way closer.

Well obviously, if it was from the Police range, then they know who was on the range and those guns can be sampled for their ballistic prints and compared against the offending bullet.

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been watching too much CSI bud, "ballistic prints" can only show how many different guns were used (sometimes) they cannot tell you which gun was used and they change after every shot fired.

I think some reporter was not using his brain that day, I need to call news 9 and complain, sheesh.

it would have had to have been someone else shooting, but the part about a hospital leaving the bullet in... that has got to be BS.

We know its a 9mm because it was shot by the police although its still in his body.....

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They actually say that but I would like to know how they know its a 9mm and from the police range.

2-3 MILES from a 9mm?

Hmm...what's that i smell? Bovine fecal matter? Yep - thats what it is...