Winchester White Box stories you have heard....

WWB was my preferred target round for practice for a while. When I was using it a lot, I had about a 1% "problem" rate--usually the rounds were clearly out of spec.

I also had quite a few boxes that had a few rounds over 100.

I shoot alot of WWB 9mm, the 100rd value packs and i have never ran accross a problem round.

Shot thousands of rounds in 9mm and .45 of WWB and never had any reason to complain. Its cheap and it works reliably.

My only experience with this ammo is on my 22-250 and it is positive. I have historically shot Remington green tip accupoint high end varmint through the rifle (Model 70 with a bull barrel) and it is extremely accurate.

I saw a screaming deal on the white box stuff for $5 per box of 40 that was hollow point. For $5 I had to try it and bought 4 boxes. Odd as it may be it was dropping rounds right on top of the same hole my expensive Remington stuff was making out to 250 years. The ballistics were close enough to identical out of my rifle as to be able to use them interchangeably. They were equally as accurate, making the same size groups.

never had any problems with the 100rd packs of 38spl and my friend uses the bulk packs of .45 all the time. he only had a few that didnt go boom and that was due to light primer strikes.

and the federal .22 bulk is great too. out of a box of 550 i rarely even have one not go off. the remington thunderbolt on the other hand has about 1 in 50 that wont go off or splits the case.

i hear WWB gives you herpies.............

This one time?

At Walmart?

I bought 5 boxes of WWB in 9mm.

Several people helped me to shoot it up over the course of an Up-North(tm) Saturday.

And a good time was had by all.

I have heard that Winchester White Box is cheap, accurate, and well made.

I have personally verified the above info. I like it.

There's NOTHING wrong with the white box ammo, or it would hurt the very reputation of the company that's selling it in huge quantities to Wal-Mart!

No company, including Winchester would ever think of ruining their reputation to do such a thing.

Wal-Mart is selling TONS of white box ammo too, vs. their regular product. Think about it for a moment . . . how could a quality company like Winchester suddenly have so much "reject" ammo.

RUMORS OF THIS SORT . . . are started by the sales sluts of your local, small-time gun shops due to the fact that many of them already price their ammo and guns at astronomical prices . . . so the white box stuff is making them look terrible!

I've never had a problem with WWB.

My CZ 75B, Sig 225 ,and the Girlfriends G17 digest it readily.


It is almost all I have shot in IPSC/USPSA and GSSF matches.

It's not 50 yard target ammo, but for other practice and target shooting, it's just fine. For the price it is outstanding, although all ammo is getting a little salty lately.

I have shot thousands and thousands of rounds of WWB in 9mm, 45acp, 40S&W, and .223. It is good reliable ammo, accurate, and cheap. My practice/range ammo has been, is, will forever be WWB, and American Eagle. Now I could point you in the direction of many inferior brands of plinking ammo........cough Independence.....cough Blazer. But WWB is just fine for the job, and anybody who says otherwise has not shot enough of it to form an opinion worth squat.

I liked it a lot better before it got more expensive than all the other 'budget' ammo out there.

I use WWB almost exclusively for target practice in my Glock 19. (9mm).

I've never had a FTF or any sort of jamming issues. I inspect all ammo I use in my firearms as I load magazines (and sometimes I inspect it all the day before a range outing as well), and have never found an out-of-spec round.

I think it's pretty good for the price tbh.

Don't believe things you hear in gun stores. I avoid gun stores like the plague. I think it's a zomggovmuntconspiricy to make gun store employees the most annoying people in the world, and then force you to buy guns from them rather than just getting them in the mail.... :tinfoilhat:

I've shot quite a bit of it in 9 and .45 ACP, and never had any problem traceable to the ammo.

Now crappy aftermarket mags, that's another story.

All the WWB ammo I've shot in .380, 9mm, .38 and .45 went bang. All but the 45 was accurate, although my Springfield MilSpec won't shoot the stuff straight. I buy Remington hardball/JHP's for it.

heard you could only buy it at WalMart because it was factory second ammo to match their factory second guns

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I heard the guns sold at Walmart are made from old railroad ties and balsa wood.

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I heard the guns sold at Wal*Mart are made of electrical conduit and pallet planks.

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WWB is my standard practice ammo - .380, 9mm, .38spl .40, .44, .45, and .223.
Good price - a cost effective alternative to reloading that allows me to shoot lots of practice rounds.

I have heard the WWB powder is made of the shavings of ingrown monkey toenails, ancient non-dairy creamer, and the soured dreams of Winchester employees.

The bullets are cast from rocks in the parking lot, and the cases are splitters held together with play-doh, and the spittle of pensioners.

I've also heard on good authority that the moon landing was shot on a back lot in Burbank.

I think I've shot well over 20k rounds of WWB, I've had 2 9mm rounds fail to fire. Never had a problem with .40 or .45 or 5.56, but I've shot more 9mm than the others, although I've been shooting alot more .45 lattely.

I like to screw with the kids at walmart, they always ask, "is this pistol ammo", so I tell them the 9mm is rifle, then the .40 is pistol, the .45 is rifle and the 5.56 is pistol... just to get a laugh out of them. I've never shot a .45acp rifle and I've never seen (in person) a 5.56mm pistol. Just something I do to giggle at the kid behind the counter.

I heard it is dangerous. If you jab sharp pointy things at the primers while holding it in your hand, it can really be bad.

If this is true, and it might be so, the question to ask is what quality control tests did it fail?

No one is going to put floor sweeping powder in cartridges. In fact, you can bet that any cartridge manufacturer is not going to have any floor sweeping powder, because if they did, it would be an incredible fire hazard. And if they did get some kind of cast off powder that might have more than one kind of powder in the pile, it would be destroyed. There would be no way to control the pressure when the round was fired. It might squib, it might overpressure a cheap .38 and explode.

But what quality control tests might a lot of ammunition fail? First of all, ammunition lot numbers have not got the significance so many people attach to them. Depending on company policy, the lot number might change when the operator or inspector changed. The components and settings on the machinery are identical.

Several components might not pass a quality check for several reasons. The bullets might have weight differences that are more than the standard stuff they label with the brand name. Suppose they allow the bullet weight to vary by up to one grain for the .45 ACP load. Bullets that weigh less than 229 grains, or more than 231 grains, can't be used.

But those bullets aren't junk, they are still usable and still safe to load. The load won't group as well, but that's why they're selling it cheap.

Suppose they weigh the case or the assembled cartridge. Again, the total weights have an acceptable variance. Some lots exceed the brand name variance by a small amount. Make them into the cheap stuff.

This does not mean the ammunition is unsafe to fire, only that it will not shoot as precisely as the brand name ammunition. But most people don't use ammunition like Winchester White Box, or American Eagle, or UMC, to try to win matches. They shoot it for practice and for fun.

They might even grade the ammunition on its appearance.

I have no idea what standards they use to grade ammunition, I'm just using basic concepts reloaders like myself use to evaluate the ammunition we make. But the companies wouldn't release the ammunition if they knew it might be dangerous to fire. That's asking for a lawsuit.

But most people don't use ammunition like Winchester White Box, or American Eagle, or UMC, to try to win matches.

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I see WWB all the time at IPSC/USPSA matches, and I have heard that even pros like Julie Gloski use WWB as high as the nationals.

In 9mm and 40 it's no better or no worse then most of the other ammos I have used. Sure premium ammo like Speer Gold Dot, and Federal Hydrashok are more accurate, but you are talking about the different between a 1 inch group vs say a 1.0-1.5 group with WWB.

My experience with WWB 45 has been hit or miss, might have been a bad batch, but the grouping wasn't consistent as it was with other ammos.

That being said I have no problems suggesting new shooters to shoot WWB, as I shoot it myself. I might get into reloading in the future so I can fine tune my loadings so I can make just over PF, but I will hold off on that until I move up to Limited and a Major PF.

100% inspections are only good 80% of the time. You have to build a system which produces quality consistently. Good ole american inspection processes. I wonder what kind of quality controls winchester implements and if they have a six sigma process or what.

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Acctually, i'd be willing to bet there quality is beyond six sigma, being as six sigma allows for 3.4 deffects per 1,000,000 opertunities. Even just a rough guess at the number of oportunities for deffect in a single round, Six Sigma would still allow for at least one deffective round every 8 cases. I've shot several times that amount of WWB before i started reloading and never encountered a deffective round.

So, to sum things up, I've found WWB to be a reliable and economical ammunition.

Guzz

I have alot of personal experience with Winchester white box ammo. Most of my experience is unfavorable. I've had powder blow back to the face several times (feels like someone is holding a sparkler to your face) and the powder charges seem to be inconsistent. This is especially noticeable at night. On a busy training day we shoot about 25,000 rounds of this stuff.

I agree with others that American Eagle seems to be better stuff.