Clipper
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Assembly pin of my PF-9 EDC didn't engage the detent and fell out. When I cleared the gun later, the slide & barrel went flying...
It Happened At The Range & I am Happy It Was Not During A Confrontation
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ctdonath
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How about any degree of maintenance whatsoever? Had carried that thing much of the summer, sweating badly on the IWB holster which I never pulled the gun out of.
It was chambered, however, so I figure if I had to fire under duress it would most likely fix the problem via cyclic forces, proving that Glocks are tough <insert endearing obscenity here> after all.
ctdonath
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Assembled custom defensive shotgun, including red-dot sight.
First round fired, red dot disappeared.
Was very glad the subsequent sinking feeling was at the range, not the street.
First round fired, red dot disappeared.
Was very glad the subsequent sinking feeling was at the range, not the street.
rodregier
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ctdonath:
Details? Which brand of red-dot...
I'm guessing it wasn't a battery issue.
Details? Which brand of red-dot...
I'm guessing it wasn't a battery issue.
ZeSpectre
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Ah the dreaded "double feed" malfunction. HATE THEM!
Lets see...
I had a trigger spring break once. (could still fire by manually moving the trigger forward).
While riding horseback out in the middle of nowhere I somehow ejected the mag out of a 1911 (never did find it).
On another <fast> horse back ride through some rough country I somehow caused the cylinder on a 686 to open enough to allow all but ONE round to bounce out of the cylinder.
Arrived at the range with 5 loaded mags for my SIG 229 chambered in .40 S&W, unfortunately I had grabbed my WIFE's 229 (chambered in 9mm). Mags and guns are marked now so that won't happen again.
and my crowing OOPS...somehow made it all the way to the range before I noticed I hadn 't re-installed the firing pin in a CZ-83 pistol.
ctdonath
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rod,
It was an early alternative to the very small Dokter sight. Don't recall the name, and getting to it means digging thru a large pile of stuff at the moment.
The problem musta been the battery connection, as there really wasn't much else to the unit. The problem has been eratically ongoing (insofar as I used the shotgun, which was little), and seemed to improve for a bit when I fiddled with the battery.
It was an early alternative to the very small Dokter sight. Don't recall the name, and getting to it means digging thru a large pile of stuff at the moment.
The problem musta been the battery connection, as there really wasn't much else to the unit. The problem has been eratically ongoing (insofar as I used the shotgun, which was little), and seemed to improve for a bit when I fiddled with the battery.
Fired about 25 rounds of WWB .38 in my SP101, then switched to .357. Fired 5 rounds, popped open the cylinder, hit the ejector rod and...nothing happened. 
All 5 spent casings were seized up in there as tight as a drum. Had to tap them out with a cleaning rod.
If I was actually in a situation where I had to reload I would have been sol.
Lesson learned. I used to only swab the chambers out with patches, but now I use a nylon brush to make sure there's no residue at the end from the shorter .38.
All 5 spent casings were seized up in there as tight as a drum. Had to tap them out with a cleaning rod.If I was actually in a situation where I had to reload I would have been sol.
Lesson learned. I used to only swab the chambers out with patches, but now I use a nylon brush to make sure there's no residue at the end from the shorter .38.
Clipper
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Had the same problem with a BSA red dot...Cured it with a dime between the battery and the cap. It probably doesn't hold the battery firmly enough and recoil disrupts the connection.
T J
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I have seen revolvers jam in a couple of situations. First a squib load jamming the bullet between the barrel and cylinder, which has to be driven back into the cylinder in order for the crane to open. Second the ejection rod unscrewing under recoil and wedging against the frame so tight the cylinder would not swing out. On automatics, have had the firing pin retainer on a 1911 style drop down and prevent the slide from going all the way forward.
TallPine
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Wow!
I'm guessing your "muzzle velocity" was way too high on the last shot fired
I've had a casing spin 180 degrees when ejected and land back in the gun, just in time for the slide to ram it primer first into the chamber. It took a kubotan to unjam that one. It was then I learned the value of a second gun. As everyone else completed the drill, I had to stop myself from grabbing my friend's weapon and shooting my target.
the naked prophet
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Only had one semiauto problem, a new Kel-Tec P3AT had the trigger pin wander out after 50 rounds on the range, which I fixed. This happened before I had thoroughly tested the gun, so I hadn't carried it yet.
Most of my problems have been with revolvers. I have a S&W model 29 (.44 mag), a S&W model 10 (.38 special), and a Taurus 85 (.38 special).
After testing and carrying the Taurus for a while, I got to the range and fired one shot. Good. Went to pull the trigger, and it was harder than last time. It got about 75% towards full cock, and stuck there. No amount of pulling could persuade it to fire. I released the trigger, spun the cylinder back to where it started this trigger pull, and pulled the trigger again. It fired fine. Next shot got stuck again.
Never figured out what was wrong with it, but Taurus fixed it in about six weeks.
S&W 29 sent to S&W for a barrel change, which they had to cut off the old barrel to install the new one. Came back, and now it has the exact same trigger issue as the Taurus did... and a huge gouge on the barrel (which was in nearly perfect condition when I sent it in!) that has enough material sticking out of the gouge to cut skin. I doubt I'll send it back, but now I'm at a loss as to what to do with it. I had planned to use it for a bear country backpacking gun.
Most of my problems have been with revolvers. I have a S&W model 29 (.44 mag), a S&W model 10 (.38 special), and a Taurus 85 (.38 special).
After testing and carrying the Taurus for a while, I got to the range and fired one shot. Good. Went to pull the trigger, and it was harder than last time. It got about 75% towards full cock, and stuck there. No amount of pulling could persuade it to fire. I released the trigger, spun the cylinder back to where it started this trigger pull, and pulled the trigger again. It fired fine. Next shot got stuck again.
Never figured out what was wrong with it, but Taurus fixed it in about six weeks.
S&W 29 sent to S&W for a barrel change, which they had to cut off the old barrel to install the new one. Came back, and now it has the exact same trigger issue as the Taurus did... and a huge gouge on the barrel (which was in nearly perfect condition when I sent it in!) that has enough material sticking out of the gouge to cut skin. I doubt I'll send it back, but now I'm at a loss as to what to do with it. I had planned to use it for a bear country backpacking gun.
doc2rn
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I bought a new in the box Taurus 92afs. On it's very first magazine of 16 9mm WWB it:
-Front sight flew off (rd 3)
-Left grip panel lost both screws (rd 8)
-trigger spring broke (rd 9)
took all night to take humpty dumpty apart, clean, and put back together again. Only to find I had lost a grip screw on the right (Doh!)
Never again will I buy a Taurus!
-Front sight flew off (rd 3)
-Left grip panel lost both screws (rd 8)
-trigger spring broke (rd 9)
took all night to take humpty dumpty apart, clean, and put back together again. Only to find I had lost a grip screw on the right (Doh!)
Never again will I buy a Taurus!
kevin davis
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took my saiga .223 to the range, inserted the magazine and could not load it. closer inspection showed i had brought the 7.62x39 magazines. i put paint patches on the 7.62 and its magazines so i can see when i get them out of the safe in dim light and match the correct rifle and magazine:banghead:
took my winch mod 70 .300mag hunting pigs, got out of the truck, flipped the safety off and shot the sky. the rifle was then unloaded and retired for the day. cleaning it out later at home, a small grain of sand fell out of the action. never had the problem again.
took my winch mod 70 .300mag hunting pigs, got out of the truck, flipped the safety off and shot the sky. the rifle was then unloaded and retired for the day. cleaning it out later at home, a small grain of sand fell out of the action. never had the problem again.
Whole Hog
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Revolvers certainly are not immune to failures. I shot 50 rounds through one of my carry guns, a S&W 337 (Airlight Chief's Special) one Friday afternoon, reloaded it with factory ammunition, and put it back in my pocket. After I unloaded it Sunday afternoon for cleaning, I discovered that the action was locked up solidily, and it took a trip back to the factory to fix.
I am with Whole Hog: both of my stories involve revolvers. My SRH jammed up after three rounds. The first time it was shot. Went back to Ruger, they did some magic, it's been fine ever since. But still...
The other was my m37. I had shot a couple of those little CCI shotshells out of it just to see how they did, and shortly thereafter the snubbie jammed up also. Back to S&W, they did THEIR magic, sent it back. I always wondered if the shotshells had anything to do with it, but their report on the work they did didn't mention "cleaned your gunk out of your gun, idiot" so perhaps not.
Springmom
The other was my m37. I had shot a couple of those little CCI shotshells out of it just to see how they did, and shortly thereafter the snubbie jammed up also. Back to S&W, they did THEIR magic, sent it back. I always wondered if the shotshells had anything to do with it, but their report on the work they did didn't mention "cleaned your gunk out of your gun, idiot" so perhaps not.
Springmom
Let's see, over the years I have had a squib load in my duty carbine, a broken mainspring in the Colt Agent I was carrying as a BUG, an old Assault Systems thigh holster come apart in a training exercise causing me to lose my weapon.
Out of those instances, it was the broken mainspring that shook me up the most. It broke as I pressed the trigger for the first shot. I could imagine that happening when I needed the BUG. The holster malfunction was a pain, but another officer saw the weapon fall out so it wasn't really lost and we were testing two of those holsters and it was better to have it fail then, before we bought a bunch of them. The squib load could have blown up my Colt R6920 and me had it traveled a little farther down the barrel and allowed me to chamber another round.
I was very happy all three happened in training.
Jeff
Out of those instances, it was the broken mainspring that shook me up the most. It broke as I pressed the trigger for the first shot. I could imagine that happening when I needed the BUG. The holster malfunction was a pain, but another officer saw the weapon fall out so it wasn't really lost and we were testing two of those holsters and it was better to have it fail then, before we bought a bunch of them. The squib load could have blown up my Colt R6920 and me had it traveled a little farther down the barrel and allowed me to chamber another round.
I was very happy all three happened in training.
Jeff
TallPine
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Jim Lovell: [after the center engine cuts out shortly after takeoff] Looks like we've had our glitch for this mission.
Missed a target once.
Seriously, I wanted to see if a Marlin .357 leveraction would feed .38 Special wadcutters...had a receiver jammed up with 4-5 loose cartridges at one point...not a good idea, and not easy to fish them out either.
Seriously, I wanted to see if a Marlin .357 leveraction would feed .38 Special wadcutters...had a receiver jammed up with 4-5 loose cartridges at one point...not a good idea, and not easy to fish them out either.
brighamr
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Double loads in 22LR
failure to feed in my xd. turns out the mag lips got bent in my range bag. This one disturbed me because it was my 16 round carry mag. Luckily about 2 seconds with some needle nose pliers fixed it
failure to feed in my xd. turns out the mag lips got bent in my range bag. This one disturbed me because it was my 16 round carry mag. Luckily about 2 seconds with some needle nose pliers fixed it
TexasSkyhawk
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Best that happened on the range rather than the street. There are SOME things you simply cannot plan on or practice for all the time.
We were testing new sidearms for our military unit back in the early 80's. I was on the test team since I was the best pistol shot, and was working the Beretta 92 over.
Slide broke and flew back in my face. Wasn't wearing eye protection (this was the military, early 80's before political correctness and professional victim status overtook everyone and everything, and, you trained how you fought).
Got a nice scar on my right eyebrow, one helluva headache, the chance to wear an eyepatch for a week or two (which made me a REAL Navy pirate then), and the privilege of writing in non-censored, NCO, goat-locker appropriate language my opinion of the Beretta 92--which has not changed in almost three decades.
And am very glad that happened on the range rather than on business. But I would have preferred it not happened at all.
Jeff
We were testing new sidearms for our military unit back in the early 80's. I was on the test team since I was the best pistol shot, and was working the Beretta 92 over.
Slide broke and flew back in my face. Wasn't wearing eye protection (this was the military, early 80's before political correctness and professional victim status overtook everyone and everything, and, you trained how you fought).
Got a nice scar on my right eyebrow, one helluva headache, the chance to wear an eyepatch for a week or two (which made me a REAL Navy pirate then), and the privilege of writing in non-censored, NCO, goat-locker appropriate language my opinion of the Beretta 92--which has not changed in almost three decades.
And am very glad that happened on the range rather than on business. But I would have preferred it not happened at all.
Jeff
K5mitch
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At a group shoot, I managed to let what I thought was an educated guy fire my Benelli Nova.
He managed a double feed of such great magnitude, it required disassembly to fix.
Nevertheless, he never touched my Benelli.
Other than that the only failure I've had was one FTF on the first mag of my 1911.
This thread is a good read though, plenty of learned-in-hindsight knowledge.
He managed a double feed of such great magnitude, it required disassembly to fix.
Nevertheless, he never touched my Benelli.
Other than that the only failure I've had was one FTF on the first mag of my 1911.
This thread is a good read though, plenty of learned-in-hindsight knowledge.
I've fired a .40 out of a .45 for the exact same reason (maybe we have the same friend). Not really dangerous (.40 out of .45), just annoying. Something to consider adding to one's training to save precious seconds in combat. Practice immediately closing distance and using H2H strikes when you have a close range (say 5 yds or less) malfunction. I do this when shooting at a place that will allow it. I deliberately load snap caps in the mag (or empty brass). When you get the malf. based on distance either clear it while moving off line (to cover if avail.) if farther way or, immediately close and muzzle punch the target, then move off line (to cover if avail.) and clear it.
It's one thing to think "if I'm close and have a malfunction it's quicker (safer) to go hands on", but if you don't train it you will hesitate/stand there trying to clear it. Think about how long 2-5 seconds is 5 yards or less from an armed opponent to be trying to clear a jam.
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