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It Happened At The Range & I am Happy It Was Not During A Confrontation

Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics and Training' started by GRB, Jul 12, 2008.

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  1. GRB

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    Things have happened to me at the range, that I am very happy have taken place there and not out on the street while I was involved in some bad scene. At the range I was able to take my time to make a correction fix something that broke, change guns, clear a jam or whatever else needed to be done. In the street, you had better hope you learned from whatever bad happened at the range, so whenit happens in a bad situation, you know what appropriate action to take. My bet is things like this have happened to you as well. I'll share one from yesterday, why not share your experience too:

    Yesterday I was at the Westside Pitol Range in Manhattan. It was agood way to kill an hour at the end of the workday (and yes practice counts toward my work hours since I need to maintain proficeincy). I drew my Glock 19, aimed in at the target at about 50 feet, squeezed the trigger, the gun went bang and jammed. I tapped, and went to rack, and immediately saw a stove-piped spent casing. So I racked by running my hand down the top of the slide from just forward of the shell casing - so it would definitely come out as I racked it.As the slide opened, I saw (and it is amazing all you can take in over just a split second) that a round was about halfway into the chamber, and another live round was pointing up behind it. Somehow two rounds had come out of the magazine. So I continued the rack turning the pistol over to help make sure all three rounds (the spent one, and the two live ones came out). They all fell out with a bit of a shake, then I let the slide sling forward, and commenced firing. All went well until the next mag, and guess what, another stovepipe. Cleared it quick, and reengaged.

    Funny this has never happened before, and the pistol was cleaned very well a few days before this. I had thought it must have been the magazine on the first jam, but when it happened again, I thought well maybe it is something with the pistol itself since it was a different magazine the second time. Or maybe it was a combination something wrong with just pistol the second time, but with the mag and pistol the first time. I fired it again and again after that, at least 100 rounds more, no more malfunctions. Regardless, since I had 5 magazines with me, I put aside and marked the magazine from the first and second malfunctiion. Then I cleaned the Glock 19, and loaded for the street, but with a feeling of uncertainty about me. I did not notice anything that looked wrong when I examined it while cleaning it. I must admit though, I am no gunsmith; so you can bet that on Monday it goes right to the Glock armorer at work for a good check-up.

    So what has happened to you while at the range that made you happy you were not in the middle of something bad in the real world?

    All the best,
    Glenn B
     
  2. waverace

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    broken firing pin

    Had a firing pin break while shooting a Bennelli B76 9mm put an end to my range day :( I dont carry but would have sucked if I did and it happened in a life threatening situation .
    Still havent found a replacement by the way , have made a couple but they dont work as well (light primer strikes) if anyone has one let me know :)
     
  3. AndyC

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    Had an IWB holster come out, still covering the pistol, when I drew. Never owned one of those with a spring-clip again.
     
  4. GRB

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    Wow that IWB clp on holster coming out still on the pistol brings back memories, as in reminds me why I don't carry holsters like that anymore either.
     
  5. ctdonath

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    Better found at range?

    - Safety failed after rifle trigger job. Caused firing pin release when safety was released. Discovered at range on empty chamber.

    - Barrel missing from carry piece. Discovered when showing clear at gun show entrance.

    - Glock slide rusted closed to barrel/chamber, considerable force needed to break loose. Discovered at arrival at range when making carry piece clear.
     
  6. RoadkingLarry

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    I'd recommend more oil. :)

    Got to range, opened range bag and discovered that pistol was still lying on bed in case at home.
     
  7. ravencon

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    As to the OP, you are fortunate this happened at the range rather than in an interpersonal conflict resolution scenario. :)

    Another reminder why I really, really like revolvers.
     
  8. DWARREN123

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    Any machine even a simple one as a firearm can break at anytime. Sometimes a fault can be detected by a good inspection while cleaning and sometimes not.
     
  9. HuntAndFish

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    Lots of stuff.

    In snubbie class. Shoot five, clear empties. Pull speed strip from right rear pocket in a hurry and moving it forward to the gun, I lost my grip and the speed strip goes flying downrange. Oops. Luckily also had a speedloader on the support side.

    AR class. I was new to the AR. Zeroed the gun with small aperture. Half way through the class the instructor mentions he likes the large aperture better. I switch to it without re-zeroing. The very next drill is head shots. I didn't get a single hit. Oops.

    Lots of others...don't wanna tell. :)
     
  10. Leanwolf

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    Glenn Bartley, I don't know if this were your problem but sometimes, when a person SLAMS! the loaded magazine into the pistol's butt -- you know, like we see in the flicks -- it can cause a cartridge in the magazine to either cant or turn upside down, especially in double stack magazines. A jam for certain.

    Also, same thing could happen if somehow the butt of the pistol were to be banged sharply on a hard object.

    Just a thought.

    L.W.
     
  11. xpun8

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    Got to range and discovered carry piece not in holster!!!

    GFZ-had appointment at kids school with the principal, so pissed-off after meeting decided to hit the range. Went in, paid, got to lane and WTH!!! it's not there, PANIC. DOH!!! It was still in my vehicle safe. Holster=BlackHawk SERPA By the time summer came (OWB during winter) I was in the habit of feeling the grip each time I left the vehicle.
     
  12. 1911 guy

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    Rear sight fell off a 1911. Kinda hard to bang 25 yard papers with no sights.
     
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    My semiautos, including glocks, had magazine problems occasionally. I sold them.

    5000 rounds later, my revolvers have yet to "jam". Once, I got a dud, so I squeezed the trigger bringing a fresh round into play. It went bang.
     
  15. NukemJim

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    Rear sight on a Kimber broke and fell off the slide during a CCW class. Finished the drill and switched to a Para P-14

    NukemJim
     
  16. Avenger

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    I got to the range once, opened the trunk....I'd loaded everything into the OTHER car the night before. Drove home (it was only 10 miles), switched vehicle, drove back....where's my range pass? Sitting on the passenger seat of the FIRST car.....man.....
     
  17. AndyC

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    Argh! :banghead: :D
     
  18. MaterDei

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    Every time I took my Sigma to the range was a disaster. Other than that I've had a firing pin in a .22 rifle break. Doesn't really count as something that would have happened in a confrontation on the street.

    Let us know what's wrong with your Glock. Have you notified the company yet? They need to know to start working on a new catch phrase. I guess the 'perfection' thing has to go now. :)
     
  19. hatchetbearer

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    Went to range for my second time, this time with more than one gun, upon entering, noticed they had a "all range guns must be in a case while passing through the store" sign. only own one case, went from truck to shooting lane 5 times coming and going.
     
  20. wheelgunslinger

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    I came within 1lb of trigger pull from shooting a guy breaking into my house one night.
    The next day, I was at the range and the pistol fired one shot and solidly jammed with the same mag and ammo I'd had in it the night before. I cleared it, considered what my luck might have been had I needed to shoot and packed it up, traded it away, and haven't been sorry.
     
  21. wideym

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    I usually carry my Colt 1991 series 80 and after having some work done by a gunsmith, I simply loaded and carried it for a week until I had time to go to the range.

    The gunsmith reassembled it wrong and the series 80 safety was engaged and I had be carrying it around for a week without a clue. I changed it out with a series 70 safety and always either pencil test or test fire after working on it.
     
  22. another okie

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    EZ loader broke and fell off my shotgun in the middle of a 3 gun match.
     
  23. willbrink

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    "Yesterday I was at the Westside Pitol Range in Manhattan."

    There's a pistol range in NY NY? I can't believe NY would ever allow such a thing...:what:
     
  24. FPrice

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    Had a complete casehead separation with a (are you ready?) Glock 23. The base went flying whicle the rest of the case remained in the chamber. Took a few minutes to figure out what happened and how to get it out.

    Defintely not something I would have liked to have happen on the mean streets.

    Turns out it was the ammo and the manufacturer replaced it with extra rounds.
     
  25. Coyote Hunter

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    Carried my old EMF Colt SAA clone on the farm all day, horse back the next day, tractor the next., went to pull it out to clean off dust and hay debris, cylinder fell on ground. The cylinder pin had fallen out of the gun sometime from the holster exerting too much pressure on the retaining spring on the side of the frame. Don't have that problem on the old BP style frame with the front retaining screw, good thing that elusive coyote didn't show up after all....
     
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