I asked Obama about Gun Control...

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I got the chance to ask Obama about gun control. He was in New Mexico. I asked him if he supported keeping me from purchasing firearms, and "exotic" weapons like full auto firearms.

He told me:
I've heard from a lot of people, and I've made decisions before that supported bans. I think I understand the issue better now, and wouldn't make the same choices. I'm fine with upstanding citizens like yourself having automatic firearms, I am however troubled by these kinds of weapons in urban areas or areas that have trouble with gang violence. I've never seen more firearms help in these areas, and usually they are illegally obtained. It's a complex issue, I ask that the people help me make these decisions, rather than my voice being the final word. Thank you.



(Sorry it's not word for word quote, it happened really quick that I was able to ask him)
 
IBTL, But I asked one of his senior campaign advisors who grew up hunting in S Texas the same thing, and got a very similar and reasonable answer. I say give him the benefit of the doubt. Many a man has been changed by circumstances surrounding him.
 
I say give him the benefit of the doubt. Many a man has been changed by circumstances surrounding him.
And many a man has said what others have wanted to hear them say in order to fraudulently obtain a vote!
 
Hah,

That is what he says now. I am sure if he becomes president, he will waste no time in enacting all kinds of bans.
 
You probably would have learned more if you'd said "I don't feel safe when ANYONE has a gun, what are you going to do about that when you become president? I don't think ANYONE should have ANY kind of gun except the police."
 
Snake. Always look at where the money comes from - George Soros, the Brady Bunch, the Joyce Foundation etc.
Not to mention his VP pick very proudly authored the Clinton AWB...
Yeah, Obama is all for your 2A rights (rolls eyes)
 
I say give him the benefit of the doubt. Many a man has been changed by circumstances surrounding him.

Actions speak louder than words!

And many a man has said what others have wanted to hear them say in order to fraudulently obtain a vote!

I couldn't have said it better.
 
"I won't take away your hunting guns."

Sure, but who defines "hunting guns"? And why talk about taking away guns at all unless he plans to do just that.

Plus, there are a lot of things he could do that don't involve "taking away" any guns:

Cancel or refuse to renew all FFLs.

Impose a $100,000 yearly tax on every gun. Can't afford it? Surrender the gun, but nothing is "taken away."

Impose a prohibitive sales tax on ammunition and reloading supplies. (What do you mean a $50,000 per round tax on ammo and a $10,000 tax on every primer!?)

Ban or tax gun transfer, no exception for inheritance. The owner dies, the gun has to be surrendered to the state. Again, nothing is "taken away."

Or simply ban hunting on federal lands, then tell the states to ban hunting or they won't get any federal money. Since there is no hunting, there are no hunting guns, so all guns can be "taken away."

None of those things involve tanks in the streets or black helicopters. Just a determined administration that wants to make sure there is no resistance when it decides to cancel elections and remain in power.

Jim
 
Story of the Snake

I am reminded by a story: (it goes something like this)

A man found a snake in the snow...frozen. So he picked up the snake and took it back to his cabin and put it by the fire. The man thawed the snake out and gave him food and water. Soon the snake was able to move again, and reached out and bit the man. As the man lay there dieing the said "Why did you bite me...I saved your life?" The snake said "Well you knew I was a snake when you brought me into your house!"

Have I gotten my point across?
 
The secret to success is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.--Jean Giradoux (1882--1944), French dramatist
 
Inkhead, I suspect Obama had no idea what you meant when you said full auto weapons. He probably thought you meant "assault rifles". Had you said "machineguns" he would have had his guards shoot you on the spot.

Understand, those guys have one motto - guns and gun owners are evil and must be destroyed. They aren't interested in technicalities.

Jim
 
Quick IBTL.....

The phrase is "You can judge a man by the company he keeps" and is just as apposite....

However as per Jim's comments, post Heller, "constructive" + "cunning use" to tax a right out of existence simply won't fly.

Even in the UK they know that dog won't run, they just legislated the right out of existence as there is no RKBA.

The only way that could work would be a new constitutional amendment to supersede 2A
 
I really don't care if the man is suddenly as pro-gun as the founder of JPFO, campaigns on the idea of striking down GCA '68, and starts openly carrying a Serbu Super Shorty on the campaign trail. He's still a socialist, if not a communist, wants his own "Security Force" and has ties to terrorists and racists. Why in the hell would anybody who values freedom, personal liberty and the security of this nation vote for the man??
 
Give everyone an M16

I say give all law-abiding citizens an M16 and make them take a course in safety and to learn how to use the weapon.

Isn't there a country that does this or was I pipe dreaming once? :rolleyes:
 
If he made a statement such as you described the man LIED to you. Some time ago, his position webpage had declared support for a federal ban on CCW, and all semi-automatic guns. They have since removed those positions. He has repeatedly voiced support for the AWB. He said DC's gun laws- which included a total ban on firearm self-defense under ANY circumstances- was ok!

Look at what this fool has been saying and doing for YEARS! He has a solid gun hating voting record. Look up what his vp pick Biden had say to a gunowner who asked about an ar 15!!!
 
I sure enough get it MDMadrid!!!

Of course it's VERY hard to see what O has done and very EASY to hear what he says!
 
He has repeatedly voiced support for the AWB. He said DC's gun laws- which included a total ban on firearm self-defense under ANY circumstances- was ok!

Look at what this fool has been saying and doing for YEARS! He has a solid gun hating voting record.
Both he and Biden have never met a gun control initiative that they didn't like and vote to implement. Biden, in particular, is a known and virulent enemy of the RKBA.

And many a man has said what others have wanted to hear them say in order to fraudulently obtain a vote!
Those willing to swallow such platitudes from a candidate no doubt deserve the government that results.

Gun control is a negative issue that the nObama campaign wants to avoid at all costs. That does not mean that they've suddenly got the RKBA religion. It means that they want to defer the issue until they're in office.
 
I am however troubled by these kinds of weapons in urban areas

Holy crap!

He came pretty damn close to agreeing with the Klan.

"Urban" is, of course a political euphemism for "black." See the phrases "urban youths", "urban violence", "urban poverty", etc. when used by politicians and academics.

So BHO doesn't have any problem with guns in the hands of "fine, upstanding citizens like yourself", but he doesn't want them in the hands of the "urban people."

Obama as old-time Dixiecrat. Who'd've thunk?
 
Obama is a smooth talker. He has recently said:

"Those of you with rifles and shotguns in you home, I am not going to take them away"

"I support the 2nd Ammendment, with common sense regulation"

Note he does not say he won't take away your handguns and does not share what he considers to be "common sense regulation."

In the past he supported a national ban on concealed carry. Taking the right of the individual states to govern away.

He also in the past supported a ban on ALL semiautomatic firearms. Not only does that include most of the firearms owned for home defense, but would also make the Ruger 10/22 rifle I bought my son when he turned twelve illegal.

If he only speaks in half truths on the gun control issue, I would assume he does the same on all issues. Therefore, I have no idea or what he will do on other issues if he is elected.

Yes Obama is a slippery snake.
 
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