What are the chances of ammo coming down in price?

LOL...Everyday that ammo prices stay at the same price, that's effectively the same thing as prices coming down, given inflation, devaluation of dollar, etc.

The only thing that will cause ammunition prices to fall is a decrease in demand or increase in supply. I don't see either happening.

Raw materials costs should drop as the economic conditions soften but that won't necessarily equate to lower ammunition prices.

I don't see it happening; has anything trended down in price over the last year or 10?

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I don't know about trends, but I just filled up my gas tank for about a dollar less per gallon than I was paying a month ago. I'm not exactly a cockeyed optimist, but it's better than a poke in the eye with a pointed stick.

Reload. If not, then don't look at the big picture, just go out and buy as much ammo as you can afford. Stored correctly it will last forever and there may come a day when you will need all that you can get.

I was surprised to see the US currency increase in value now that we have approved $700+ billion in the bailout plus more to follow like the ones from Palosi is recommending. Hey, lets keep printing $ except add more zeros.

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If that does end up happening then the value of the dollar will decrease rapidly. Printing more money devalues the dollar, because it devalues the debt. It wipes out savings, it wipes out foriegn investment, and it wipes out faith in the currency. However it also reduces some debts because while the amount of debt remains, the value it represents goes down.
So the buying power of the currency goes way down, but the value of the debt owed also goes down.

It has a similar effect to raising minimum wage more than inflation warrants. Since the economy is a competition with supply and demand, giving more people more money means more money is required to buy the same products and pay for the same labor in creating or distributing those products. So the market simply adjusts by lowering the national purchasing power of the dollar.

Also, how is China continue to lend us money without losing faith and what is keeping them from dumping the dollar. Scary thought but anything is possible.

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As I mentioned it is done for a reason. So things on the surface are just a simple overview.
Yes China does gain a large amount of control over the value of our dollar by owning many of the bonds the dollar is issued against. What that means is if in a number of years we ever had a problem with China they could simply drop the value of the dollar at will.
As they diversify thier economy, expand thier market well beyond the USA and become less dependent on us they have less to lose by doing that.
So yes it is scary from that perspective.
However much of international banking is controlled by a limited number of individuals active in multiple nations. So more would be behind such decisions than just what is on the surface.


So this all means the prices of ammo could go down, if the value of the dollar remains stable and even increases due to our nationalized debt (that we are now enslaved to through taxes.) However if they start printing more money to 'ease the burden' or some other stupid thing then the buying power of the dollar could see a significant drop, and prices could climb on many commodities and products they are used to create.

It really just depends on what people do.
At the same time our increasing socialism could significantly damage production and revenue even while strengthening faith in the dollar with the government assuming many of the debts.
So that could result in a slower economy, and a much slower economy at the continued (or increased) rate of our government spending would result in actions that would lower the buying power of the dollar further.

So a lot really depends on choices made in the future. By our politicians, by the bankers pulling the strings, and by decisions made by foriegn investors like China.

Ammunition prices will be reduced by 50%
















Right after the next Buddy Holly Concert. Better get your tickets now.

I don't see ammo prices going down soon, rather, they just will stop going up as fast.

We've already shown that we will willingly pay fifty-cents a round for .308 ammo, that a .22LR brick will sell for $15, and that 9mm can be sold at $10 a box.

Why would they drop the price when we've shown we'll pay what it costs now? When commodities prices fall and the ammo companies save money on components, they'll just make more profit on the higher sale price. Simple economics.

We've already shown that we will willingly pay fifty-cents a round for .308 ammo, that a .22LR brick will sell for $15, and that 9mm can be sold at $10 a box.

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This was discussed in a forum on another board, but I'm guessing that some of this willingness to pay comes from "panic buying." People are hoarding ammo in reaction to successive rapid price increases. I predict that once people decide they're sitting on enough ammo, they'll stop buying and demand will go down. And as demand goes down, so should prices (if we believe the economists), especially if this lower demand coincides with a drop in commodity prices.

I predict that once people decide they're sitting on enough ammo, they'll stop buying and demand will go down.

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That's me. I got some .308 in January, right before prices took a leap upward. Now, I don't even want to shoot the rounds for fun because of their value. I definitely have to get into reloading.

Why would they drop the price when we've shown we'll pay what it costs now? When commodities prices fall and the ammo companies save money on components, they'll just make more profit on the higher sale price. Simple economics.

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I think you're forgetting about competition. Ammunition dealers aren't some huge monolith, all working together. When one can lower prices to draw in more customers, others will follow.

Ammo prices have come down alot over the years. Looking at older firearm catalogs one can see that ammo used to cost ALOT more(in many cases, depending on caliber) then it even does now. Obviously this take into account the adjustments for inflation.

Why would they drop the price when we've shown we'll pay what it costs now? When commodities prices fall and the ammo companies save money on components, they'll just make more profit on the higher sale price. Simple economics.

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No, that is simple pandering... Just as in any other market, the ammo market will adjust. There have been declines in prices on some of the ammo that I have seen....

Company A will drop their unit price to try and get a larger market share. Company B will naturally meet or beat that price to keep or expand their share...

Real...Simple economics.

By your twisted "logic" the price of anything would always go up and downward pressures would have no effect on the market. Every Widget sold would be at a unit higher price than the time before... so the companies can "make more money"

Time to actually listen in those Econ classes.

I reload and buy everything in bulk, and for the last 6 months, the price of components have stayed pretty much the same. UJ

I cashed out on my surplus .308 (about 1000 rounds Port/SA/Aussi)... made ~$500 and reinvested that money into startup reloading gear and essential components (i.e. ~5k primers, 12 lbs mixed powder).

I think milsurp has peaked and why would I use a FMJ round for SHTF when I could make better new ammo, seal it and use premium hunting bullets? More accurate, more lethal, only $.40 a shot.

You can ban importation of ammo, but I think it will be awhile yet before they ban .30 cal hunting projectiles and powder. Primers will be the first to go when they regulate ammo IMHO.

What are the chances of ammo coming down in price?

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About the same as the chance of the price of gas dropping anytime soon.

Its like everything else, it goes up a bunch then drops a little and everyone is happy

Actually ammo prices are already dropping. 9mm is down $2 a box from the high at Dicks. Prices for metals like copper and brass have dropped substantially in recent months. The world-wide recession is lowering demand for all things.

Well I thought that we would never see gas under $3 a gallon again, but it is, at least until after the election, then we better watch out, will probably go higher than we have ever seen it before....

I understand that due to these high prices, more and more people are reloading.

But if enough people reload, will the ammo industry lower the price on factory loaded ammunition?

Gas has already dropped to nearly $2.60 a gallon here......lead & metals in ammo are doing the same. The bottom isn't here yet....things should look good for stocking up this winter/spring.

there will never be enough reloaders to affect the prices factories charge. The biggest factor in factory prices is WAR.

I've been resisting shooting much centerfire ammo. I have a fair amount of what I use, but hate to burn it up.

So, buy more as you have funds. Prices won't come down. It is possible you might see a bump down in the future depending on war status, but I believe it will be just a bump in the otherwise climbing price road.

Lordy sakes alive! I can't believe you guys are so wet-behind-the-ears. Here's what's really gonna happen:

1) Ammo prices will drop slowly.

2) Congress will add a 500% "sin-tax" because shooting is highly addictive, and dangerous to the wallet.



Seriously now, ammo prices will stay the same or increase, because the natural tendency of most businesses is to rape the market for all it can bare. After all, where we gonna buy ammo except through them?! Supply and demand is a BS concocted misconception, applied to attempt to legitimate the illegitimate. If you need ammo, you may as well buy it now, because prices aren't coming down.

Just my bitter opinion,

Doc2005

Seriously now, ammo prices will stay the same or increase, because the natural tendency of most businesses is to rape the market for all it can bare. After all, where we gonna buy ammo except through them?! Supply and demand is a BS concocted misconception, applied to attempt to legitimate the illegitimate. If you need ammo, you may as well buy it now, because prices aren't coming down.

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I'd expect this kind of rant on Daily Kos, but frankly I'm surprised to see it here. Once again, it isn't "them" that sells ammunition, it's a whole lot of independent companies who all want a greater market share. It's called competition, and it's the linchpin of capitalism, the alternative to which is a government-controlled economy, which is called communism. That's been tried and it hasn't worked out so well. Capitalism may not always work perfectly (and keep in mind that our current system is quite far removed from a truly free market due to government intervention and the resulting skewed incentives for business), but it's the only economic system that is compatible with individual liberty and limited government, the principles this country was founded on. One of the most important responsibilities we have as citizens is to educate ourselves, and some of the posters here are severely lacking in a basic understanding of economics. Cynicism is not a substitute for knowledge.



Back on topic, I've certainly seen gas prices going down, and apparently others have seen both commodity and ammo prices falling as well. There are obviously other factors involved as well, but for the most part, the current market turbulence isn't driving prices up, it's bringing them back down.

I believe ammo prices will come down simply because metal prices (copper, zinc, lead, etc.) are all falling this year.

Do not count on ammo prices coming down at all...