What is the most unsual but most prestigious

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Let it please be noted that CZ52Guy's use of the American flag as a backdrop violates the U.S. Flag Code, which prohibits draping the flag on anything but the casket of a veteran (and some others) and that under no circumstance, EVER, should any object be placed on top of the flag.

You can find the Flag Code and FAQ's on the American Legion website.

Red, white, and blue bunting can be used to convey the patriotic intent without disrespect to the flag. Similarly, the flag could be shown in the background, without being draped or having anything on it, without violating the Code.

As a veteran, I protest vehemently to this blatent disrespect of the flag. The fact that others burn the flag; wear it as clothing; fly tattered flags; or otherwise misuse the flag out of ignorance, arrogance, or a sense of entitlement makes absolutely no difference. That's why we have the Code.
 
Let it please be noted that CZ52Guy's use of the American flag as a backdrop violates the U.S. Flag Code, which prohibits draping the flag on anything but the casket of a veteran (and some others) and that under no circumstance, EVER, should any object be placed on top of the flag.

You can find the Flag Code and FAQ's on the American Legion website.

Red, white, and blue bunting can be used to convey the patriotic intent without disrespect to the flag. Similarly, the flag could be shown in the background, without being draped or having anything on it, without violating the Code.

As a veteran, I protest vehemently to this blatent disrespect of the flag. The fact that others burn the flag; wear it as clothing; fly tattered flags; or otherwise misuse the flag out of ignorance, arrogance, or a sense of entitlement makes absolutely no difference. That's why we have the Code.


http://suvcw.org/flag.htm

VG and I have had this discussion privately and publicly. While I am not a veteran, my career has been in its entirety at a defense contractor that supports the efforts of our troops.

I am married to the daughter of a veteran and career civil servant. Both of her brothers also served in our military...her eldest brother got me back into shooting sports about 18 months ago.

It is my bride of 17 years that thought the flag made a wonderful backdrop for my collection...an opportunity to show that I am a patriot...proud of my country, proud of my right within the 2nd Amendment to procure weapons of defense at my choosing.

Our view differs from VG's. When reading the flag code literally, the placing of an object upon it is listed as a prohibited act under respect for the flag, section 8, item g. It is also illegal to use the flag as part of an advertisement according to the letter of the law. VG's interpretation would invalidate the right to a flag on your t-shirt, your coffee mug, a decal on your automobile, or a bumper sticker. Political candidates nationwide could potentially alleviate the national debt if this code were literally interpreted in every instance.

I love the flag. I'm proud of my collection and I am proud of my country. I respect VG's right to take a position regarding adherence to the letter of the law. However, we all know that flags adorn hats, shirts, coffee mugs, lunch boxes, towels, and even warm up jackets for Olympic athletes. Reading the context within the link above, the Supreme Court has consistently struck down application of the Flag Code has a method to prohibit the freedom of speech. In the cases in question, individuals sought to flaunt the 1st to desecrate the flag.

I have no such malicious motives. I adore the flag. I adore our country. While I respect VG, and am grateful for the service that has been provided, I have to weigh this THR member's perspective against that of those I am closest to. I go shooting with my brother-in-law, both of us wearing hats adorned with the American flag (he gave me the hat). His 25+ years of service within our armed forces makes me respect his opinion regarding the appropriate interpretation of the Flag Code and its relevance vis-a-vis the 1st Amendment.

I have not deliberately sought to offend anyone. That a specific board member finds adoration of the flag in this manner offensive, and believes that a fundamentalist interpretation of the code must be followed is their right.

I however, have to follow my consience, and the guidance of those who are closest to me.

VG, I will not be engaging you in continued arguments regarding this topic. You do not live in a country where you are the sole arbiter of right and wrong. I have sought to engage you in respectful discourse on this topic. We will need to agree to disagree.

I apologize to others within this thread for the interruption...please continue...

Merry Christmas,

CZ52'
 
My vote goes to...

The Broomhandle Mauser. Not a pin or screw anywhere except the grip, the thing is a jigsaw puzzle that goes bang. First runner-up is the
Luger. I just love that toggle thingy.

On the flag issue, I don't have a problem with proper display or using it
as a backdrop to announce one's patriotic stance...Wearing it, or anything resembling it as clothing is crossing the line, though, and I do object to that. Shirts, pants, scarves, and bandanas etc. Men have died keeping that flag from being soiled by touching the ground.The exception is when it's worn as a shoulder insignia by a member of our armed forces. As an
insignia on a hat or cap, there is nothing wrong that I can see as long as it's worn with respect and the proper attitude.

Cheers!

Tuner
 
Not really that unusual and certainly not prestigius, more along the "gets most attention at the range" type. All original.
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VG's Pistol

Ahhh...VG. What a grand old girl! I have a few of those, and I wish they
could talk. The character marks and dings suffered at the hands of a
thousand conscripts in training or on the job at some nameless, ugly
place don't detract from her charm one bit.

Tuner
 
VG,
Every single display of the flag, except the one on the moon, violates the Flag Code. On Earth, at least, there's dust that collects on everything (this dust contains some bits of insect feces, for instance), and there's also quite a bit of nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide on any flag exposed to air.

More seriously, I surmise that people who complain about Flag "desecration" are foolishly more concerned about the sacredness of the Flag than about sacredness of this country and its principles. IMO, such people look at the Flag as Wilde surmised most people would have looked upon Dorian Gray, and they wrongly assume that as long as it is pristine, the country and ideals for which it stands are similarly pure. Nothing can hurt the Flag if this Country is vital. The Flag is descrated by its mere existence when the Country's ideals are ignored in nearly every vote of the Congress.
 
SAKO Triace kit with all 3 caliber conversions, only 12 imported to the U.S. in 1985.
Rohrbaugh, considering how few of them there are right now.
Hammerli 208 that won its' match with a record score at the last pistol match to ever be held at Bisley England. A plaque is on the wall there recognizing the shooters accomplishment.
Beretta Billinium, not many of those around.
SIG P210's, -5 and -6.
S&W 945
 
Tyme wrote:
VG,
Every single display of the flag, except the one on the moon, violates the Flag Code. On Earth, at least, there's dust that collects on everything (this dust contains some bits of insect feces, for instance), and there's also quite a bit of nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide on any flag exposed to air.
Or, maybe you don't understand the price that so many Americans have paid so you can write this. But to make something positive of it, don't forget to support the New England Shelter for Homeless Veterans. They are some of the men who have paid the price of freedom for us.
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My most prestigious gun would be my Desert Eagle. Not because it's a DE, but because it is one of the first 1000 to be imported into the US in 1985.

I also have a Luger and a Nambu brought home from war by my grandfathers. Thier capture stories are very interesting.
 
Didn't notice it in my first post but I picced a single shot in the semi-auto forum. But anyways, here are the profile shots. (Pardon the photo quality. Overcast day and when I crank up the EV quality drops usually for some reason.)

(Trigger has been rotated ~30° clockwise to my preference.)
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To make up, here's my 280.

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So - hksw ..... is that Hammerli hybrid a 22lr or .32 S&W?? Best target pistol I had way back was a Walther GSP .... long gone more's the pity.

Only guy I ever saw shoot something similar was consistently hitting x ring!!
 
It's not prestegous, but it is one of the first Witness pistols imported under that name, and quite possibly the first 40 Tanfoglio imported under that name....
 
The 280 is strickly .22 lr (shorter finger grooves on the side). Never got the .32 SW upper as I felt I would never shoot it. (Relatively rare caliber and I didn't reload it.)

A GSP (or two) is (are) on my list. That's higher up on the list than the SP-20.
 
I have not deliberately sought to offend anyone. That a specific board member finds adoration of the flag in this manner offensive, and believes that a fundamentalist interpretation of the code must be followed is their right.
Yeah, live and learn. Now I know of two instances when a U.S. flag can be displayed lying on something.

1. On the casket of an American Soldier.
2. When you feel like taking pictures of a Czechoslovakian pistol.

If all that happens is that more people read the Code and try to abide by it, that's a Good Thing.

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My Kimber Custom Classic

...............it bears the much prized "Clackamas" rollmark.:) It also bears serial #K0017XX Kimber 1911's started at K001100.:D
 

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Vg,

From your post I am not sure if you understand that the code is entirely arbitrary. In reality a flag is not more damaged by taking a picture of a gun on it than flying it according to the "code".

I would imagine many of the men who died in the circumstances you describe might consider freedom from arbitrary Excessive government regulation for regulations sake to be among the values they died for.

The picture in this thread does not violate the SPIRIT of the code since it serves to honor the flag. It is merely a technical violation of a rule that is not based in reality but instead uses mysticism as its justification.

I just don't think attaching biblical importance to this is called for. The code in general is a good idea and might as well try to adhere to it. Same with laws against speeding and jay walking.
 
Dr. Rob, I'll see your Magnum Carry and raise you this:

Combat Cobra
 

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hksw's backdrop

Sorry for interruption folks..

Nice guns :)

I was interesed i hksw's picture backdrop..

What kind of wood is that??Birch?? Mable?and in what form.?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.Please use Pm or e mail so we can keep the thread going uninterrupted..

[email protected]

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Hakan.
 
Hakan,

I'm sorry to say this but the backdrop of the guns photoed is only a dresser drawer. It was purchased approximately 20 years ago for my bedroom while growing up. The actual wood is of particle board and a pattern painted on the surface. Actually, two or three patterns pained on it. There is the base grain pattern, an uneven stain/tiger stripe pattern, and a spiderweb/smudge mark pattern. (The grain and stain/stripe could have been made by the same applicator.) There are two sets of patterns set side-by-side to simulate two boards butted up to one another and are slightly different from each other to also illude that they were cut from the same trunk. Not sure who the manufacturer was/is so you could track down the pattern or even buy stock printed panels but I'll see if I can find out that info.
 
As a veteran, I protest vehemently to this blatent disrespect of the flag.

And as a veteran (not to mention a plain ol' human being), I think you are being absolutely ridiculous in your persistent thread-jacking over photo backgrounds. :rolleyes:

HINT: Forced, slavish veneration of the flag is contrary to the spirit of the thing itself.

Hmmm... this "ignore" feature is becoming entirely too handy lately. :scrutiny:
 
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