Is Illinois getting anywhere with carrying a gun.

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They're getting no place, and at the speed of light.

The ONLY way that Illinois is going to get shall issue concealed carry is if the Supreme Court orders them to, as in the case of the Chicago handgun ban.

Chicago runs Illinois and Chicagoans have no more use for individual liberty than a starfish does for a unicycle.

Write Illinois off and get on with your life. Illinois is literally surrounded with free states. I'd pick Missouri. Before the Civil War, you went from Missouri to Illinois to be in a free state. Now it's the other way round.
 
I'm from Illinois and is wondering if the state is trying to make progress on citizens being able to get a ccw.
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Unfortunately with Quinn still in power it's not going to happen as he won't sign off on any bills that are pro-2nd amendment. So next time around vote that dang Democrat out of office, along with his cronies.

But if Illinois track record with governors is any sign he'll soon be indicted on corruption joining his buddy Blago in the federal penitentiary. ;)
 
Last year they created the Firearm Public Awareness Task Force, to look into RTC in Illinois:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2811045/posts

From what I understand, this report shows a lot of favorable data, that may give some Democrats some lee way with consituents to vote for it.

Yes Illinois is controlled by the Democratic Machine, and no - Rahm Emanual and Mike Madigan don't care what the report says. We aren't naive enough to believe that anti-gunners are going to listen to reason, we have a nieghbor to our North (Hello Cheesheads) who passed carry and their state is doing just fine since then. Wisconsin didn't turn into the OK Corral, all the states bordering us have carry laws... There has also been a change in attitude in some members of the African American community, favoring gun ownership.

So this could be the year... this could even be the month.
 
I remember several years back, when oldest brother moved to Kansas from Emperor Dick DaleyLand:

"I had forgotten how it is in the USA.....
 
I live just over the "border" in Missouri, I refuse to enter the state at all, which bites especially with Fast Eddies right there across the bridge with the "coldest beer in the state" and all...

Stop electing the idiots and some possibility might exist for your 2nd Amendment rights being returned to you.
 
writerinmo said:
I live just over the "border" in Missouri, I refuse to enter the state at all, which bites especially with Fast Eddies right there across the bridge with the "coldest beer in the state" and all...

Stop electing the idiots and some possibility might exist for your 2nd Amendment rights being returned to you.
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+1 with writerinmo,

we stopped going to Illinois too, no Fast Eddy's, Spencer T. Olin golf, what-ever. Usually about 20 - 25 guys, 4 or 5 times a year. Life's too short, gotta go where you're welcome.
 
Stay and fight, I can remember the days we couldn't even get a vote on it, now we get closer every year.
 
ljnowell, you're thinking there has one big flaw in it...if it's within ANY of the 50 states then we're all "involved" in it, as long as ONE state still restricts our 2nd Amendment rights then the battle is still continuing. Illinois is already feeling the ill effects of people doing just as we advised, packing up and leaving rather than fight a fight they can't win against a corrupt "machine" that's decades old... a state that outlawed "novelty lighters", that passed a statute allowing you to pick up roadkill, and the latest news, that they want to charge everyone who's kid rides a bus to school $100 for the "privilege" to use the bus to get to their mandatory education classes. At some point the place is just going to collapse in on itself, maybe when it gets that bad they will hand it over to some high school economics class to run, they couldn't do any worse than the legislators that they end up with.
 
In my travels down south, I avoid Illinois like the plauge--horrible state including the toll roads
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Make that ALL the roads....


I'm from Illinois...moved to Texas and won't ever go back unless it's to see my parents. Even then I'm counting the days until I'm back home
 
I read a quote not long ago by Rahm Emmanuel. It was about the reason he was pushing all those ridiculous gun laws a few months back, like restricting ammunition, etc. He basically said if he couldn't stop CCW in IL, he was going to do everything in his power to make life difficult for gun owners. That gives me a little hope.
 
ljnowell, you're thinking there has one big flaw in it...if it's within ANY of the 50 states then we're all "involved" in it, as long as ONE state still restricts our 2nd Amendment rights then the battle is still continuing. Illinois is already feeling the ill effects of people doing just as we advised, packing up and leaving rather than fight a fight they can't win against a corrupt "machine" that's decades old... a state that outlawed "novelty lighters", that passed a statute allowing you to pick up roadkill, and the latest news, that they want to charge everyone who's kid rides a bus to school $100 for the "privilege" to use the bus to get to their mandatory education classes. At some point the place is just going to collapse in on itself, maybe when it gets that bad they will hand it over to some high school economics class to run, they couldn't do any worse than the legislators that they end up with.
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Glad ya'll left then. The rest of us will keep up our fight. I guess its a good thing no one picked up and left other states that had to fight to pass it. What about Wisconsin? This is just another pile on Illinois and complain thread. Almost as good as when California comes up.
 
I never "left" Illinois, I moved to Missouri from Kansas some years ago. Contemplated going to work over the line in Illinois until I found out that my CC permit wasn't any good over there.

What about Wisconsin? They have a concealed carry permit, and have issued over 100k permits as of April of this year and have a Castle Doctrine statute in effect. California has a concealed carry program, granted it's a "may issue" and it seems that most Sheriffs have agreed to limit permits, but there is still some sort of program in place.
 
Anyone not familiar with what we are doing over here has no place to answer this guys question. A couple responses to this thread have royally pissed me off!

We have TWO cases up for orals on June 8th. We will go to the Supreme Court if needed. Recent cases are being cited in our own cases, primarily Woollard.

We have TWO carry bills in the house.

We are also waiting for a task force report to be released any day now regarding their research in a change of the laws.

Yeah, all is lost. Give up. Move. Might as well, right? Whatever.

It only took a couple hundred years just to get the 2A to mean exactly what the hell it says it does.
 
dbrown - it would help if you contacted your Illinois State Representative and asked them to support the Family and Personal Protection Act.

To find your state level officials, go here:

http://www.elections.il.gov/DistrictLocator/DistrictOfficialSearchByAddress.aspx

Fill out the address information exactly as you recieve mail. This screen is very picky about the data, so you may have to try a couple of different times. You'll get a listing of all your state officials as well as the Fed offices.

And you can get more info on the exact bill numbers and things at Illinois Carry:

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?act=idx
 
You've had the same bills shot down by the governor for years, and don't have enough of a majority to override his veto...see, I DO read the papers...so why not focus on getting rid of Quinn since it's a dead end trail unless you elect enough 2nd friendly people to dislodge the current "cronyism" bunch? It'll take a heck of a lot of money to do that, since they get hand-fed from hundreds of special interest groups.
 
Exactly, Quinn would just veto it, on orders from Emmanuel. So glad I moved from IL to the free state of NM, concealed carry, open carry, I carry a loaded Sig 220 next to me in the car console. I believe that would be a felony in IL. Half the state is National Forest or BLM, and so open to shooting.

There's a reason 700,000 people have left IL the last decade. It's CA without the good weather.

It isn't just the politicians, most of the people there are ignorant about guns. My wife's friend visited here a couple years ago, and before going on a hike in the mountains I strapped on a Ruger LCR. The friend practically started to hyperventilate.
 
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