CA Police limited to 10 round mags too?

nope


And thats a 20 rounder not 10.

Certainly not by state law, don't know what local policy might be but I can't imagine a department limiting themselves when they don't have to.

Nope, police in California have rejected the laws that apply to citizens and do what they need to do to be safe.

They should be limited to what the citizens of that state can own. If not, then it is unconstitutional.

California does not care about constitutional. They banned open carry of handguns and open carry of long guns, some counties do not allow carry of fixed blades, or exposed pocket knives. Magazine limitations and firearm accessory limitations. The use of deadly force by police seems to be on the uptick.

Politicians and the police are scared, and they should be. Oppression leads to revolts, right?

After the mis-ID shootings during the Dorner debacle, it would stand up to Anti-reasoning that the public would be safer if California LEO's were limited to 10-round magazines.

That is the most concerning trend I see. Government forces (police, FBI, ICE, Sheriff, . . .) all continue to arm themselves with greater and greater firepower, armor, armored carriers, helicopters with advanced optics, drones, electronic wire tapping, and other apparatus that in the past were associated with armies. The government forces are all very highly armed, trained, funded and effective. The differences between an army and a police force are becoming less and less. At the same time the goverment (in many states) that funds these forces reduces the ability of the people to defend themselves from not only bad citizens, but also the government itself, should it ever come to that (which I hope it does not).

It would have been like the British allowing the colonies to only have knives while the trained British army had muskets (guns). The outcome would have been different had the colonies not been armed. The same is true of any people in the world today that is disarmed against an oppresive government. There needs to be a balance of power.

A retired police chief friend of mine in California told me many police forces train for the ultimate showdown, mass chaos and rioting by civilians. Since it is unconstitutional for our US military to police our citizens, many mayors and police chiefs believe that duty falls to them. (this was my friend's opinion after 30 years as a cop)

To protect and serve the public is a credo that seems to be long gone.

I lived many years in California and it mystified me that a high-school educated prison guard is considerred a Law Enforcement Officer and has more gun rights and legal access to high capacity mags and "off-list" AR lowers and handguns for personal use than a 20-year US military combat veteran who used firearms daily in the pursuit of a pay check.
Law enforcement officers in California are not covered under the same gun laws as ordinary citizens. When I moved to Arizona and went into a gunstore, it was so nice to see one big store that was not segregated into LE and Non-LE sections.

The state government of California has done an excellent job of instituting a caste sytem within that state. It seems crazy that that common citizens dance around the lower rungs wondering how these public officials that were once working for their constituents are suddenly and amazingly making all kinds of new laws that stifle citizens and leave government officials exempt from those same laws or prosecution.
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Part of the legislative strategy in the last 15 years or so has been to exempt police from some of the laws, to garner support for the bills from police agencies.

So, sworn officers are exempt from the 10-round magazine limit, and exempt from the Roster of Handguns for sale.

It is also the case that, with a letter from one's Chief, officers could purchase guns CA calls 'assault weapons', and register them. That allowed departments to avoid spending the money; however, there is some rancor associated with a legal opinion from our current Governor, when he was Attorney General, suggesting that such weapons are legal to possess only while that officer is still active. You may imagine the unhappy reaction to the suggestion an officer might not be able to keep something purchased with his/her own funds.

it seems leo's are exempt from murder so full capacity mags are a walk in the park

A retired police chief friend of mine in California told me many police forces train for the ultimate showdown, mass chaos and rioting by civilians. Since it is unconstitutional for our US military to police our citizens, many mayors and police chiefs believe that duty falls to them. (this was my friend's opinion after 30 years as a cop)

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California, or at least LA, does have a pretty rich history of incidents to fuel that belief system -- right about the time the last guys who had served during the Watts Riots were retiring out of the system, the Rodney King Riots rolled through to remind everyone that Los Angeles is maybe one bad news cycle away from chaos at any time. (And, of course, people smarter and better informed on the topic than me have talked about the chicken or the egg aspect of LAPD's seige mentality concerning minorities and other aspects of that agency's institutional culture.)

I'm not saying it's a healthy worldview for LEO's to have, but it did not develop in a vacuum in that part of the country, and it part and parcel of a broader pattern of dysfunction and cultural decay.

After the mis-ID shootings during the Dorner debacle, it would stand up to Anti-reasoning that the public would be safer if California LEO's were limited to 10-round magazines.

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It is interesting how LAPD is a trendsetter. They mainstreamed the idea of SWAT teams during the late 60s crime wave and political unrest, they led the way with upgunning regular patrol elements with patrol carbines (gov surplus M16A1s, IIRC) after the North Hollywood bank robbery, greatly refined riot control/response after the King Riots, etc.

Simultaneously, they're a also a trendsetter in the consequences of that increasing militarism and the police/public relationship that both leads to that increased militarism and that is fueled by it once it sets in. The "four wheels and a tailgate = shoot target" issue during the Dorner incident is just the latest mess to come out of the underlying pathology in LA/LAPD (and Dorner's fragging for reporting excessive use of force may, in and of itself, represent another one, depending on where the truth sits on that issue).

According to a story I read this morning, if a shootout takes place in your neighborhood, the cops can search your home including garage and closets, even after the the threat has been removed.
California police appear to be able to do anything they want when firearms come into the fray.

After the shootings, police went door-to-door in the neighborhood, searching homes, garages, even closets, to determine whether there might be additional suspects. Law enforcement officers filled intersections, and helicopters and light aircraft patrolled the neighborhood about a mile from downtown Santa Cruz and the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57571502/two-cops-suspect-dead-in-calif-shootings/

police went door-to-door in the neighborhood, searching homes, garages, even closets, to determine whether there might be additional suspects.

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Because the violent sex offenders often travel in packs.

I hope someone slaps the SCPD with a costly lawsuit comes over this.

The way many cops shoot here, they'd need a bandolier with two dozen 10-rounders....

They chased a murder suspect here for about 70 miles, fired over 700 rounds at him, and then the suspect killed himself.