Good "quiet" Brake for my AR?

Battlecomp or Knight's Triple Tap. The Noveske Flaming Pig and AAC Brake Cover work too but are bulkier and heavier (around 8oz).

If you divert the gasses in any direction other than out the end of the barrel, it is gonna be louder. Look for those that minimize the divert. They also minimize the comp....

LNK

Yep it is called taking the break off, it is remarkable effective at projecting the muzzleblast downrange and does not cost a dime and as extra bonus I won't feel like you are a jerk when you when you are lighting that thing off on the bench next to me ringing my ears wearing two layers of hearing protection! Had that happen last time out, and yes I did say something to the guy, 20 open shooting lanes two people on the whole range and he had to sit right next to me with that 14" barrel monstrosity. Why use a brake on an AR anyway, they have like virtually zero recoil? If you want to reduce felt recoil and not blow everyone else off the bench invest in a suppressor which is WAY cooler anyway, I don't know of a singe effective brake that does not make a rifle much louder, and I have seen a bunch of different styles at the range

I was impressed with the effectiveness of an comped AR that I just shot, and the second target aquisition speed increase! I didnt, however, like the increased blast. Can any of you recommend a good brake that directs the blast downrange, or otherwise re-directs the blast? Thanks!

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Might I suggest you spend some time researching the subject? When you do, I think you'll know that what you ask won't work.

Can any of you recommend a good brake that directs the blast downrange

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Nope, they don't work that way.

Yep it is called taking the break off, it is remarkable effective at projecting the muzzleblast downrange and does not cost a dime

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LOL, yep, but no one want's the simple solution.

Jim

thunderbeast can

That's basically what suppressors are...muzzlebrakes that have the ports for the brake covered. They reduce the recoil, and the sound.

It's a case of you really can't build a better mousetrap. Brakes on .22 calibers are not sensible.

I won't use a brake on a 30cal, slapping on a limbsaver is all most people would ever need, and those don't make any extra noise, a muzzle break would be a piss poor tradeoff even on a 308 or 30-06. Now if I had a 338 Lapua or 50 cal that would be a whole different story. 5.56 "recoil" is a joke, might as well be shooting a 22LR and yes I have shot 5.56x45 full auto, very very controllable.

I have a brake I put on my 10/22 when my niece comes over. Like most 13 year olds she makes mistakes. She is to safety conscious which leads to her sticking the barrel in the dirt or banging the muzzle crown on the truck. I am happy she is safety conscious. Once she gets a little taller everything will be just fine. When she is at home she shoots at a range with concrete sidewalks. It takes her a few days to get used to picking her feet up to avoid stumbling on roots and rocks when she is here.

Actually brakes are quite effective on .223, but yes they are louder. About the best you can hope for is to minimize the amount of sound and muzzle blast that is directed back toward the shooter.

And for those who don't think they are effective please show the science. In measuring split times on my 18" RRA upper I use for 3 gun I personally tried it with and without the brake and showed a nearly 20% reduction in split times. If you play the shooting games they work, if you are just shooting targets from a bench then probably no real difference except that you can see your bullet impacts better with the reduced muzzle rise.

Troy Claymore. Well worth ~$65

The Noveske Flaming Pig and AAC Brake Cover work too but are bulkier and heavier (around 8oz).

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I like the KX3; it does a fantastic job of directing muzzle blast. But you have to remember that it is also designed to increase backpressure on short barrels to enhance reliability; Stick it on an already over-gassed M4gery, you end up with a vicious pulse.

I personally wouldn't put a flaming pig on a barrel with more than 3" forward of the gas port. At least not with the cone installed. And the KX3 is NOT a brake at all.

browningguy said:

Actually brakes are quite effective on .223, but yes they are louder. About the best you can hope for is to minimize the amount of sound and muzzle blast that is directed back toward the shooter.

And for those who don't think they are effective please show the science. In measuring split times on my 18" RRA upper I use for 3 gun I personally tried it with and without the brake and showed a nearly 20% reduction in split times. If you play the shooting games they work, if you are just shooting targets from a bench then probably no real difference except that you can see your bullet impacts better with the reduced muzzle rise.

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I would not argue that brakes don't work, I would argue weather or not a 5.56 has enough recoil to justify such a thing, any rifle with so little recoil I can put the buttstock against my groin and fire without any discomfort does not justify a fancy noise maker on the end of it. I have shot many many an AR and M16 in my days and never had one kick enough to make me loose my aim on target, and I am no big fella by any stretch of the imagination. I see brakes on ARs as some wannbe "tacticool" dodad with no logical purpose other then to annoy the piss out of others at the range, I hate the blasted things. You need one on your 338 Win Mag sure I understand but an AR come on now lets get real.
I was in the Big Red 1 a rapid deployment combat unit, and we never needed noise makers on our rifles, nor did I ever hear of anyone wanting one. Just my $.02 or make that $40.00

Kachok said:

I would not argue that brakes don't work, I would argue weather or not a 5.56 has enough recoil to justify such a thing, any rifle with so little recoil I can put the buttstock against my groin and fire without any discomfort does not justify a fancy noise maker on the end of it.

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You don't shoot a rifle competitively do you?

LNK said:

They also minimize the comp....

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Ayup.

Linear "comps" (Levang,Claymore) don't have any effect on muzzle rise.

Some guy did a comparative test with a remotely triggered rifle that was free to recoil and tracked muzzle position via a visible laser on target and a time lapse. The Levang behaved identically to a bare muzzle IIRC.
Should be easy to find.

DPMS Levang directs the blast forward almost as good as the Flaming Pig but does not increase port pressure in my experience.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/52...levang-linear-1-2-28-thread-ar-15-steel-matte

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You don't shoot a rifle competitively do you?

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No but you are not about to tell me that an 22 cal needs a brake for shooting anything especially in a semi auto platform, you might as well tell me the 22LR needs a brake, if your times improved by a fraction of a second good for you, but I would chalk that up to a psychological advantage not a practical one. I am not opposed to bakes in general, but when they exist for no other reason then to run everyone else off the firing line it urks me off to no end, I promise you those guys don't shoot pro anything, heck they could hardly load the magazine, they put a brake on there because it looked cool he told me himself. If one more jerk lights off his unnecessary noise maker next to me one more time when the rest of the firing line is open I am going to talk to Tony about having them banned from the range, that little 14" cluster mess the other day was the most ear piercing thing I have hear in a long time.
Guess I am well on my way to being an old fuddy duddy, I like ARs but most wannbe tackticool junk does not appeal to me one bit and the noise makers just piss me off.

If one more jerk lights off his unnecessary noise maker next to me one more time when the rest of the firing line is open I am going to talk to Tony about having them banned from the range, that little 14" cluster mess the other day was the most ear piercing thing I have hear in a long time.

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Oh, you would hate me.

16" AR-10 with shark muzzle brake

18" Cetme with 12 port radial brake.

PLR-16 with YHM Phantom

And, of course, the AR-50 that tends to blow anything weighing less than 2 lbs off the table.

MachIVshooter said:

Oh, you would hate me.

16" AR-10 with shark muzzle brake

18" Cetme with 12 port radial brake.

PLR-16 with YHM Phantom

And, of course, the AR-50 that tends to blow anything weighing less than 2 lbs off the table.

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Not as much at leased the Cetme and AR10 are 308 platforms and while I don't think a 308 has much kick I know plenty of people who do, and the 50 cal I would not shoot one without it! I would not like being next to you at the range but at leased I would understand, and I imagine you are not the type to shoot those next to someone just to piss them off.
Me personally I would need a stout 338 caliber before I could justify such a noisy contraption.

I imagine you are not the type to shoot those next to someone just to piss them off.

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I don't shoot on public ranges anyway, but if I did, I would be considerate and find a lane/bench that was away from other shooters or shoot something less obnoxious.

while I don't think a 308 has much kick I know plenty of people who do,

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It's about recovery time. The AR-10 is heavy and semi-auto, so felt recoil is similar to a bolt-action .22-250 sporter or similar. But it's definitely enough to make double taps inaccurate with no muzzle device.

This rifle is over 13 lbs as equipped & with a loaded 25 round mag, and still jumped a decent amount with the A2 flash hider:

Levang Linear Compensator.

Kies Blast Master.

Black River Tactical Covert Compensator.

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Then you are arguing from a place of ignorance.

Kachok said:

but you are not about to tell me that an 22 cal needs a brake for shooting anything especially in a semi auto platform

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Brakes make for faster split times. That is an inarguable fact. When rapid hits matter, brakes offer real, tangible advantages.

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Guess I am well on my way to being an old fuddy duddy

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Agreed.

Kachok said:

308s just don't kick hard enough to justify those darn noise makers.

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http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=8542254&postcount=12

That AR the other day was the second loudest rifle I have ever heard, and a sharp ear piercing crack too, even wearing muffs and plugs, but the absolute worst was the guy with a 300 WSM custom carbine, a 18-20" barrel with a brake on it! Almost knocked me off the bench when he lit that fuse, I don't get the point of a 300 mag carbine you are not doing much of anything that a 308 could not do in that tube.