Hi Point Carbine

I was a snob too

I picked mine up as part of a package deal. I took it out and couldn't get it on the paper. I realized that the front sight was askew 10 degrees or so and brought it back to center. Works fine, accurate, a very nice burner of .45 ammo. I like it so much I bought two additional mags. All I can say if your hating on this gun is, take one out and shoot it. Your mind will be changed. Of course when you try to clean it your mind will change back but like that crazy Ruger Mark II, eventually you will find the way to do it quickly!

Kiln said:

No problem, it is a pretty common occurance and happens randomly after a few thousand rounds with both the pistols and carbines. A few users are even reporting this problem on guns with <500 rounds. I'd take down your gun and check out the FP channel. This is the only reason I haven't bought a HP carbine. Basically if you actually fire it, you're going to have this happen at some point and failure reports of this nature are not incredibly uncommon.

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/f274/worn-out-283383/

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/f273/life-expectancy-hi-point-slide-283662/


http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/f273/my-c9-its-crack-addiction-307020/

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/forum/f274/excessive-wear-old-post-294717/

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Thank you for the links, I will check them out shortly.

I suppose for the time being, I can consider myself lucky, as I very rarely do any white glove treatment to this carbine. Its never needed it or given me issues.

Thanks again.

Okay, Kiln. So you had me paranoid to the point of yanking the bolt. Guess what I found...

Nothing. It sits in the same state as I bought it, but horrendously dirty (thanks to you I've gotta clean it ).

Also, I read the links in their entirety, Googled the issue, went to the Survival Boards (HP carbines are big there) and I'm still seeing it as a very rare occurrence. Well, rare to me. Seemingly those who did have this issue were older model carbines and the pistols (which I don't own) and were taken care of by Mom.

I'd say if that's what's holding you back from ever buying one, youre missing out on a good rifle.

I've been thinking about getting one in .40 cal.

These carbines are as formidable and effective as any AR-15 carbine within 150 yards or so, and are nothing to scoff at in the hands of a skilled shooter.

Accurate.

Potent.

Inexpensive.

Good enough for me.

I'd accept that but the "Crack addiction" thread where two users reported firing pin channel cracks was from about two weeks ago.

I still might buy one because their warranty service is great but at the moment even a Hi Point is out of my financial reach.

I have two HP carbines and four pistols in 9mm and 45. All of them are excellent shooters. Completely reliable and willing to eat any ammo I have ever fed them. My first C9 probably has 2,500 rounds through it and the only FTFs I ever had was with a brand new factory magazine that needed tweaking.

None of them are pretty guns. My carbines haven't really seen that much use but I do have the 9mm set up with a light for HD. I probably have 1k rounds through it, mostly FMJ, and it has not had a misfire of any kind. It is on paper at 25 yards which is what I ask it to do considering I use iron sights and my eyes suck.

They are alright but I've seen several worn out firing pin channel reports over on the Hi Point Forums. I'd definitely keep that channel clean and well lubed in hopes of it surviving past 3,500 rounds or so. They are known for being reliable and fun but durability does leave something to be desired. The sad part is that aside from that issue they seem to be pretty sturdy carbines.

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I am not sure if mine had this exact issue but, when I first bought it, it had an issue with the bolt hanging open and being nearly impossible to close. I sent it in for repair. They sent it back good as new with a new sling and magazine for my trouble.

Since then, I have near 10k rounds through it without a failure.

Maybe it isn't incredibly frequent. Did you guys use and particular cleaning regiment or special lubricants to get those kinds of lifespans? I love cheap guns but won't deny their issues. I wasn't setting out to bash them at all, I own lots ox sub $200 guns.

I agree with Schwing (and others), the Hi-Point is a truly underrated firearm. Yes, they're big. Yes, they're ugly. But most of all, they're accurate, cheap, and lots of fun! Enjoy your pistol-caliber carbine, and don't let anyone belittle you for owning a Hi-Point.

Loved my 995!

I don't remember what I gave for my 995 but it wasn't much. It was a fantastic little gun! I wish I had never sold it but a guy gave me $400 for it back during the scare. My 6 year old(at the time) grand daughter loved to shoot it( she also shoots my M-1 carbine and Saiga AK-47).

Kiln said:

Maybe it isn't incredibly frequent. Did you guys use and particular cleaning regiment or special lubricants to get those kinds of lifespans? I love cheap guns but won't deny their issues. I wasn't setting out to bash them at all, I own lots ox sub $200 guns.

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I didn't get involved, but I use MPro7 alot on my semis.

One of the only guns I regret selling was my 9mm carbine. I would lime to get another, and maybe try out the 40 S&W version as well.

Has anyone had any luck suppressing one, or even SBR'd one? Would love to see a picture of a Hi Point SBR, suppressed.

A typical outing for my 4595

I pulled out my 4595 and my shooting buddies asked what that was. I responded that it was a Hi-Point 45 carbine. I was then regaled with stories of what crap Hi-Point pistols were. Worst gun I ever shot was repeated twice. I suggested they shoot the carbine and see what they thought. Cans were flying at 50 yards not a single issue with the rifle. Put about 150 rounds through it and they were raving about what a wonderful home defense carbine it was. I have never seen a Hi-Point pistol but that carbine is a pretty awesome $300 pick up.

Love mine. I bought it used 12 years ago from a pawn shop for $70. Never had any issues in the happy years that followed. Not sure how many rounds put through it. Thousands. I used to have more money for ammo back then and bought 9mm by the thousands. I'd love a 45, but money's too tight.

I shot my friends 9mm carbine and it was 100% reliable as well as accurate.

If I bought one, it would be a "fun gun", which is a good enough reason to have a firearm.

I havent found the true role for a pistol caliber carbine that another weapon that I have doesnt do better, or even much better.

Never had heard of one till today when My nephew showed me his. We shot about 100 rounds thru it and I liked it right much. At the end of the afternoon he was fussing he was low on cash nowdays. So I now own it for 225.00 Its only had 150 rounds put thru it. I'm pretty happy with the deal. It sure is ugly as heck... but I like it.

I have a first gen. Hi Point 995 that I got a few years ago from a friend. I traded him two battlepacks of South African 7.62 ball for it. It's a nice little carbine but the plastic trigger on mine broke. This isn't a knock on the gun -- even expensive guns can break.

Rather than shipping it back to Hi Point, I decided to make a replacement trigger from brass.

Buy a Hi Point as Ohio needs the money!

Seriously I suggest you Hi Point guys check out the link Dave provided above. He did a really nice job of making a trigger that will last forever.

Ron

As Kiln suggested, my older 995 carbine also has excessive firing pin channel wear. Gun has approximately 1500 rounds through it. The soft zinc gets chewed up by the hardened firing pin. No amount of grease or lube stops it. I could warranty it through hipoint if it really gets bad to the point of malfunctioning, provided the parts are still available for the old 995.

The firing pin channel in my 995 wore out to the point of getting light primer strikes. Sent it back for warranty service, no questions asked.

I got the rifle back with a new un-scratched stock, extra magazines and a handwritten apology that the rifle needed service.

It is a fun gun, cheap to shoot, and good customer service. A great range gun.