Joe Demko
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I'm waiting for the .50AE model.
Hi-Point Carbine
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hboy35
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fills a niche
my Hipoint carbine fills a niche. Even us poor State employees want a reliable, functioning, Affordable carbine. I own some Rugers, but have been able to buy lots of 9mm ammo to feed my Hipoint, since I didnt buy the Ruger PC9.
my Hipoint carbine fills a niche. Even us poor State employees want a reliable, functioning, Affordable carbine. I own some Rugers, but have been able to buy lots of 9mm ammo to feed my Hipoint, since I didnt buy the Ruger PC9.
Tropical Z
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Hi-Points as a rule are one of the most accurate guns out there-carbine or handgun.I dont know how they do it for the price they charge.
Selfdfenz
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I can't go to a gunshow without picking up a HP carb.
I wish they were at least a little less ugly.
At the local shows they run $170 or so which I have not been able to bring myself to pay so far for that level of glamor. (about what I would pay going with Gunbroker and paying for a transfer)
What are the chances HP will make hi caps for them when the ban goes away?
I would get one this weekend if I thought there would ever be a chance of getting a 15, 20 or 30 round mag for the thing. Ugly and all.
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I wish they were at least a little less ugly.
At the local shows they run $170 or so which I have not been able to bring myself to pay so far for that level of glamor. (about what I would pay going with Gunbroker and paying for a transfer)
What are the chances HP will make hi caps for them when the ban goes away?
I would get one this weekend if I thought there would ever be a chance of getting a 15, 20 or 30 round mag for the thing. Ugly and all.
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Lobotomy Boy
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The High Point seems to be a pretty decent gun, but I wouldn't rule out the Ruger PC9. Sure, a new one runs a lot more than a new High Point, but there are some decent deals on used PC9s. I've seen them as low as $225. 10,000 or 20,000 rounds down the road that extra $125 might seem like money well spent (or it might not).
As for Ruger's warranty, I've seen the company bend over backwards to take care of its customers. There are some decent people working for the company. Personally I've never had a Ruger break so this is just second hand information.
As for Ruger's warranty, I've seen the company bend over backwards to take care of its customers. There are some decent people working for the company. Personally I've never had a Ruger break so this is just second hand information.
Lightspeed
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went to my range again today with my hi-point. It really shoots the winchester ball white box well, better than i expected it to do.
Another guy had one of the new berretta Storm carbines. That was one nice looking gun!
I'd way rather have my hi-point than that kel-tec Sub though. The guy shooting it stopped all of a sudden and I walked over to see why, and his front sight had just cracked apart from the recoil! Looked like it was made of real brittle orange plastic. I don't think I'd trust sights like that myself.
Flyer
Another guy had one of the new berretta Storm carbines. That was one nice looking gun!
I'd way rather have my hi-point than that kel-tec Sub though. The guy shooting it stopped all of a sudden and I walked over to see why, and his front sight had just cracked apart from the recoil! Looked like it was made of real brittle orange plastic. I don't think I'd trust sights like that myself.
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Rick Blaine
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I noticed people commenting on the Hi-Point carbine's accuracy. It is amazingly accurate with the factory sights, and even better with my cheap red dot scope. Rick
Cyberdyne systems
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HI POINT CARBINES are state of the art!
HI POINT carbines cheap, reliable, accurate, tough, if TSHTF my HP carbine is the first gun I would grab! it's made of hi tech space age polymers, alloy receiver, modern stampings, these things ar state of the arts!
HI POINT carbines cheap, reliable, accurate, tough, if TSHTF my HP carbine is the first gun I would grab! it's made of hi tech space age polymers, alloy receiver, modern stampings, these things ar state of the arts!
9 m&m
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supposedly browning hipower 30 rd mags work in them...mine functions without problem....
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Arent Hi-power mags DOUBLE STACK?? Hi-point mags are SINGLE stack.
supposedly browning hipower 30 rd mags work in them...mine functions without problem....
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Arent Hi-power mags DOUBLE STACK?? Hi-point mags are SINGLE stack.
I've shot four of them over half a dozen years. One I shot was hitting about every other shot on a paper plate at 150 yards. For a 9mm carbine, even an MP5(!) that's not bad with iron sights.
I would certainly buy one for $100-200. They're like Sten guns. Cheap, ugly, but reliable lead throwers for close range. They have good ergonomics and shoulder naturally for me. I would prefer a Sub-2000 or a PC9 or a Beretta Storm, but I certainly wouldn't turn one down to arm myself with in a hurry. And the stock is solidly built enough to possibly buttstroke with. I would prefer a higher cap magazine, but hey, for a $100 gun, what do you expect?
One guy I know has one with 4,000 rounds through it and I think the most he's ever done is run a boresnake through it once or twice.
I would certainly buy one for $100-200. They're like Sten guns. Cheap, ugly, but reliable lead throwers for close range. They have good ergonomics and shoulder naturally for me. I would prefer a Sub-2000 or a PC9 or a Beretta Storm, but I certainly wouldn't turn one down to arm myself with in a hurry. And the stock is solidly built enough to possibly buttstroke with. I would prefer a higher cap magazine, but hey, for a $100 gun, what do you expect?
One guy I know has one with 4,000 rounds through it and I think the most he's ever done is run a boresnake through it once or twice.
jAK-47
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Someone on this thread mentioned the HiPoint 9mm had wicked recoil. It's hard to believe a carbine would have bad recoil in 9mm. Anybody else concerned with the recoil?
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jAK-47
Thanks,
jAK-47
Bill St. Clair
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I fired a few rounds out of somebody else's Hi-Point carbine a while back. Ugly as sin and nearly as much fun!
But I bought a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in .40 S&W. Not nearly as ugly. About equally as much fun. More expensive. Folds into a small package.
If the .40 S&W version of the Hi-Point carbine had been available when I bought my Kel-Tec, I might have gotten that instead. Then again, the price I paid for my slightly-used Kel-Tec was what the MKS web site lists as the retail price of a new .40 Carbine: http://www.mkssupply.com/40_carbine.asp
But I bought a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in .40 S&W. Not nearly as ugly. About equally as much fun. More expensive. Folds into a small package.
If the .40 S&W version of the Hi-Point carbine had been available when I bought my Kel-Tec, I might have gotten that instead. Then again, the price I paid for my slightly-used Kel-Tec was what the MKS web site lists as the retail price of a new .40 Carbine: http://www.mkssupply.com/40_carbine.asp
gryphon
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Recoil on a 9m carbine? Are you serious? It feels like shooting a .22lr bolt action to me. The thing moves more when I breathe than when you fire it.
jAK-47
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Double Naught Spy said, "It was not pleasant to shoot, however. It had worse feeling recoil than my AR15...IMHO"
This was one of the first posts in this thread. I didn't understand it either. Double, can you clarify?
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jAK-47
This was one of the first posts in this thread. I didn't understand it either. Double, can you clarify?
Thanks,
jAK-47
Own the Keltec, my best friend owns the HiPoint, so I've shot both a good deal. The HiPoint is ugly as sin, there's no way around that. It is also amazingly accurate for the price, outshooting my Keltec by a small margin. It feeds almost anything without a hiccup, while my Sub 2K just doesn't like certain ammo, Remington UMC for instance. Recoil is sharper with the Keltec, but that's because it's lighter. Neither gun kicks much, or can't be held on target while emptying the mag.
As for uses for a 9mm carbine, I bought mine as a companion to my XD9 pistol. Doesn't replace a good rifle, but with modified Beretta 92 mags I can share ammo and mags cutting down on what I carry when traveling light/moving fast, and gives me a longer effective reach than with pistol alone. The Sub will put all 15 shots within a 6 inch circle at 50 yards as fast as I pull the trigger (better with well aimed shots), which is better than I can do unsupported with a pistol, and can stow in a briefcase, in a backpack, or under a windbreaker. As I said before, the HiPoint's slightly more accurate (maybe 10-20% smaller group at that distance) but uglier and bulkier.
As for uses for a 9mm carbine, I bought mine as a companion to my XD9 pistol. Doesn't replace a good rifle, but with modified Beretta 92 mags I can share ammo and mags cutting down on what I carry when traveling light/moving fast, and gives me a longer effective reach than with pistol alone. The Sub will put all 15 shots within a 6 inch circle at 50 yards as fast as I pull the trigger (better with well aimed shots), which is better than I can do unsupported with a pistol, and can stow in a briefcase, in a backpack, or under a windbreaker. As I said before, the HiPoint's slightly more accurate (maybe 10-20% smaller group at that distance) but uglier and bulkier.
tracer
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Hi Point support is excellent also.Had a trigger problem,and they turned it around in about a week,and added a magazine.
tracer
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IIRC, the Hi Point uses single stack mags, which means after the ban you won't see any hi cap mags that don't stick out of the magazine well. I don't know how neutered those mags are, i.e. how many rounds you could really fit in that space, but I'm thinking you're gonna be stuck with 10 round mags or hi caps that portrude out the bottom of the pistol grip forever. If this doesn't bother you, pick one up. Cmon, they're like $150! They give you a lot of options on their site too...lasers, red-dot sights, scopes...just buy one and go blasting.
Unless you want a SUB, which is cooler.
Unless you want a SUB, which is cooler
.Ditto on the customer support at Hi-Point. My used carbine didn't come with the scope mount so I called them and had it here, free, in 3 days.
I put the red dot on it last week and once I got it dialed in, it was shooting excellent groups at 50 yards.
I put the red dot on it last week and once I got it dialed in, it was shooting excellent groups at 50 yards.
jAK-47
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Cyberdyne systems said
"I HAVE THE PC9 AND IT IS MADE MUCH BETTER THAN THE HI POINT, THE PC9 WILL LAST A LONG TIME, THE HI POINT IS NOT BUILT TO LAST, IT'S LIKE A DISPOSABLE CIGARETTE LIGHTER EL CHEAPO..."
In the same thread Cyberdyne systems then said,
"HI POINT carbines cheap, reliable, accurate, tough, if TSHTF my HP carbine is the first gun I would grab! it's made of hi tech space age polymers, alloy receiver, modern stampings, these things ar state of the arts!"
One can draw many conclusions from this "behavior" but I'll just leave it up to each individual to draw their own.
jAK-47
said"I HAVE THE PC9 AND IT IS MADE MUCH BETTER THAN THE HI POINT, THE PC9 WILL LAST A LONG TIME, THE HI POINT IS NOT BUILT TO LAST, IT'S LIKE A DISPOSABLE CIGARETTE LIGHTER EL CHEAPO..."
In the same thread Cyberdyne systems
then said,"HI POINT carbines cheap, reliable, accurate, tough, if TSHTF my HP carbine is the first gun I would grab! it's made of hi tech space age polymers, alloy receiver, modern stampings, these things ar state of the arts!"
One can draw many conclusions from this "behavior" but I'll just leave it up to each individual to draw their own.
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