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I have a bit of a problem. There is a good chance that I will soon begin a job in a large church in Tennessee which houses a preschool. As I interpret the handgunlaw.us info it appears to be illegal to carry anywhere in the building. If that is so, what about parishoners on Sunday? Are they breaking the law? This is a very large building. Please enlighten me as I want to carry there if it is legal. Thanks!
 
As a employee you agree to certain conditions of employment. In the case of being allowed to carry a firearm in the church as a employee that is something you need to find out about before you decide whether to accept the job.

Church members carrying in church during services is a separate issue.
 
I recommend you find an attorney who is familiar with KY firearms law. In Wyoming, I can carry in church if I have written permission from the pastor, or if I am in the church for anything other than "...where persons are assembled for public worship." So scout meetings, AA meetings, etc. I'm good to go. Also, the WY CCFP specifies as a prohibited place "elementary or secondary (emphasis added) school facility," so I believe the prohibition would not apply to a pre school.

While THR has an attorney or two who provide rock solid information, I would still consult a local lawyer.

NRA Firearms Classes for the most part require someone, an attorney or a LEO with training, to present the legal aspects of self defense and concealed carry. You can find a NRA certified firearms instructor in your area on the NRA website. They should be able to refer you to someone who can answer your questions.
 
I agree that this is a question for a knowledgeable Tennessee lawyer.

There seems to be two primary issues:

  • Is the church a "school building" because it houses a preschool? As with many issues in the law the answer is likely to be non-obvious and non-intuitive. Some research of case law will probably be necessary for a decent answer.

  • Could/would the church authorize you to have a gun on premises? The "could" is a legal question. The "would" is an employer policy question.
 
Thanks for the replies. The church will not prevent me,as the pastor, from carrying. The preschool is what I need to check on.You gave me some ideas of where to start. Thanks!
 
As a employee (even Pastors are employees) is providing security for property and people on the property part of your job responsibilities? If so you may consider approaching this issue from the position that you are acting as a security officer for your organization. Obviously in many States and Communities Security Officers are exempt from not carrying guns otherwise they could not meet their job requirements.

However in some States / Communities the catch would be if you have to be licensed as a security officer in order to do so. Getting licensed is likely not a big deal and would solve the issue.

As recommended talk to a lawyer.
 
Hopefully the legal situation will be in your favor.

Myself and a few others carry at Church on Sundays and although a lot of other members assume we do, it doesn't come up. Like that good ol saying goes, 'out of sight, out of mind.'
 
Thanks all. I will definitely not carry there until I talk with a lawyer, But I wanted to check with you guys first, to at least know what questions to ask.
 
I would suggest looking to see what TN defines as "school property."

In NC law, I dont think I have ever seen preschool or head start mentioned. Its always K-12, and college campus.

They might have overlooked head start since it isnt a requirement, but if they overlooked it, it isn't addressed, and therefore not illegal.

Refer to your employee handbook or policy regarding CC otherwise. If it isnt mentioned in policy, my policy is not to ask.

I would check laws regarding daycare as well, since head start isn't either one, and both...
 
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As a former cop I was trained (and that training was heavily reinforced on the job) that "out of sight out of mind" isn't anything to rely on under any circumstances. In my experience bad things happen all too frequently and you don't want to be on the wrong side of the law if that occurs. In other words the advice to sit down with an attorney from your state and make sure you're covered is very good advice indeed....
 
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