2nd thoughts Sig P226 Dark Elite sadly disappointed.

I have had this gun about a month. Don't have to worry about loosening the rear sight screws as now the rear sight moves around by itself. Probably dosen't matter as the front sight can be pushed out of the dovetail with your finger now. Of course Sig customer service is not there on the weekend so I guess I will be taking vacation time off from work to call them Monday to see what they say.
I wonder if they will just give me my money back so I can buy a decent gun?
All I can say is for $1200 I am less than impressed to say the least.
Attempting to stay on the High Road but I think it is piece of .

My Taraus PT99 went 12 years and probably 50000s round before the adjustable rear sight on it broke, Tarus did not make a replacement so I bought a "quality" gun, a Sig.

I know lots of people have Sigs and like them but at this point in time I sure wish I would have bought the CZ75 instead, less money can't be less reliable unless it blew up on the first or second round.

The problem is the screws that are supposed to hold the rear in place are tight and the sight is loose, and I can now push the front out of the dovetail with my finger.
If the sight won't stay in what's going to fall apart next?
The front is not a case of poor design it is a case of poor machining followed by poor quality control.

I have bought and owned quite a few guns and never had one literally fall apart in a month.

I purchased this to be my new bedside pistol and I know now I can't trust it,
and never will, so it does not serve the purpose I bought it for.
I know lots people have Sigs and really like them and they may be great guns guns, but IMO the one I bought is junk.

Maybe Sig will fix it and I can sell it and get enough out of it to buy the CZ which was my second choice.



Excellent words of wisdom here

take a deap breath and calm down,

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I have 2000 cases that need to be deprimed, I may just go work on them until I am mellow and hope my decap pin does not break or fall out.

Ok I deprimed 1000 cases, my cheap Lee press that people bad mouth did not break.


The P226 fell apart. I did not break it, I did not abuse it, I did not even shoot P+ loads in it. If it was a good product with good design, good manufacturing and good quailty control I would not be "bad mouthing" it because it would not have fallen apart. I am stating facts. Sig customer service is not there on Saturday I tried to call them. If they were I would have posted their response. Typical Customer service not open on Sat when most
people have time to try call.
At this point in time the only thing Sig could do to make me happy is refund my hard earned dollars.
I might be happy if they would FEDEX me a complete P226 Dark Elite slide and have it at my door Tuesday and let me send the broken one back to them..
However the way it will probably go is ship us your slide we will fix it or send you a new one.
Maybe if I am lucky this will only take a couple of weeks and they will pay to ship the slide back.


I know this is the High Road and I am straying from it and getting ready to fall off a cliff and get myself banned but I just cannot express how disgusted I am with Sig right now and

I just feel cheated.
Normally if I don’t have anything good to say I don’t say anything but this has been a pain since I bought it and in my most humble opinion for $1200 it should be right, it should be right out of the box and it should be right the first time.

If I told my boss I just hosed the company database upgrading the server and production was going to be down for 10+ days you can rest assured he would have expected it to have been done right the first time. (probably no second time for me in that case, suggesting calling customer service for the software would not improve any chance of me keeping my job)

I consider myself a forgiving person and I know bleep happens, but shoddy workmanship in a product I might be trusting my life to is in my book unacceptable.
Sig had a chance to get a loyal customer who might have bought more pistols and rifles from them and recommended their products to friends but that chance is gone and my gun dollars will never be spent at Sig again,
and I doubt they really care.


Maybe the one I got is the only bad one out of 1000s but it's the one I have and it is bad.

The only thing I will post about Sigs after this mess is concluded is that I can't reccomend them based on my experience.


Anybody have any idea what a couple month old California P226 Dark Elite is worth?
That’s assuming I decide I can sell it to someone with a clear conscience if/after it gets fixed.

There is no reason to flog a dead horse so I am not going to say anything else about it other than to report what Sig has to say and what they do about it assuming I haven't gotten myself banned.

PS: RC sorry I did not mean to snap back at your post. Definitely not High Road

But if I got a HIpoint I would have been able to buy 3 or 4 spares.
(Don't know anything about HiPoints so nothing negative about them intended.)

elde,
sigh,
heard that (after buying it), dosen't make me happy now. As I said the front sight can be pushed in and out of the dovetail with a finger so it has issues as well. 2 for 2.
The main reason I bought it was becasue of the adjustable rear sight.

I find it sad that if Sig knows there is a problem they continue to sell the guns with that sight to unsuspecting customers. That's just not right IMO.

But I guess people buy them, discover the problem, and send them back to hopefully be repaired. Maybe if people only shoot one box of ammo a year they never have the problem. It is starting to sound like the repair they might do does not really fix the problem. Don't have much choice now unless they will give me my money back, which I doubt. Makes me wonder if California's Lemon laws apply to firearms. Bruce Gray may make a great sight that fixes the problem, but if it not an adjustable night sight it is not what I purchased the pistol for, and unless Sig is paying for it I am not going to throw good money after bad.

It was supposed to be my bedside gun, but I can't trust it for that, now that I know the front sight may fall out and the rear may decide to flop back and forth at any given time. Yes I can hit a man sized target at 10 yards with no sights but that is not the point. I paid for a gun with adjustable night sights and that is what I expected, sadly it appears that they just don't work and I am $hip out of luck. Maybe I will get lucky and Sig can fix them correctly.They have a good reputation deserved or not.
Now hopefully I can get it "fixed" and sell it to someone else, but I don't even know how much luck I will have trying to sell it when I tell the buyer about the sight issue. (which I feel I must do to be fair) I wouldn't have bought it had I known that, but it is my own fault I guess for not doing more research. Looks like I just had an expensive lesson not go buy stuff by Brand name alone. (I should know better)
Sorry everybody if I ranted just very disappointed to find out I wasted my money. I don't need a fixed sight 9mm, I already own two and the Sig won't do any thing they won't do at least as far as I can tell.

I have no idea how well it might shoot if the sights were not broken. Shot lots of rounds attempting to correct my "1911" /XD grip for the Sig. Bought a grip sleeve and aftermarket grips to see if that would help. Did not notice that the front had started to move (left part) Was trying one last time at the range before I took a blow dryer to it to try to loosen the rear sight screws and adjust the rear sight but was all over the place and could not figure out why I was shooting like . I quit at the range when I noticed the rear sight was loose and the screws were still tight. No need to try adjust anything.

I wonder if the issue with the sight has anything to do with the number of rounds fired. Low round count no issues. I am sure some people may only shoot a box a year but thats not me.

Anger has turned to disappointment and I just can't express how disappointed I am.


Old Dog, edited the title. Your are/were correct not THR. You are also correct about the sample of one, but for me one sample one failure = 100% failure rate and I doubt anybodys going to give me a Sig and since I won't buy another my failure rate with Sigs will always be 100% in the first three weeks of use.
I feel I am justified in being unhappy, and justified in pointing out to everyone the problems I am having. If it prevents someone else from having the problem I feel I did a good thing.

Had I seen a thread (it's there I'm sure, I just didn't see it before purchasing the pistol) saying there was a Known issue with Sig P226 Dark Elites I certainally would have thought twice about buying one.
Mine is a month old. If this is a known problem how much luck will I have selling it without taking a huge loss assuming anyone will buy it.

BILLG,
Sig wants $180 for the AL Dark Elite grips.
I would hope the whole gun would be worth more than $250, but maybe that's all it's worth, as I would not buy another one for $250.

If you are really interested in it knowing about the sight issue please PM me an offer.

sigh

I really looked forward to getting it after hearing all the positive things about Sigs.

When I started my thread looking for a new 9mm is should have been more specific about what P226 I was looking at. I didn't know the "upgraded" model had known issues and should have asked
specifically about reliability.

From Wikipedia

Caveat emptor /ˌkæviːɑːt ˈɛmptɔr/ is Latin for "Let the buyer beware"[1] (from caveat, "may he beware", the subjunctive of cavere, "to beware" + emptor, "buyer").

Generally, caveat emptor is the contract law principle that controls the sale of real property after the date of closing, but may also apply to sales of other goods.

The phrase caveat emptor arises from the fact that buyers often have less information about the good or service they are purchasing, while the seller has more information. Defects in the good or service may be hidden from the buyer, and only known to the seller. Thus, the buyer should beware. This is called information asymmetry.

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On a positve note
The SRT trigger is nice, nice plastic case, decent gun lock.

If I have to take close to a $1000 loss it might be worth the fun taking my friends plasma torch and burning every square mm of it out of existance, but that might be considered Extreme, wait no the Extreme is a different model.