Where is Glocks single stack 9mm

Glock is probably not never going to build the one I want( G19 single stack)
so I bought a xds 4.0 with the 8 round mag its almost identical in size to the 19.Infact it rides real nice in my tt gunleather 19 holster.If and when Glock builds mine,I'll buy it.Untill then the xds will have to do, There are plenty of decent single stck sub compacts out there right now.

If you want a single stack Glock 9 just buy a Walther PPS. Basically what it'll be like anyway.

After getting a 42, and seeing how they compare to the 26's, a single stack 9mm seems like a waste of time for what youre likely to get.

The 42 really isnt all that much smaller than a 26, and a 9mm version will only be closer in size. That, and you give up the 26's advantage of mag interchangeability with the larger models.

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Exactly. The pistol won't be all that different in size unless Glock re-engineers the slide to make it narrower. Maybe they'll do it eventually, just as they made the slide narrower on the Glock 41 than it is on the 21. But unless they do, the gun won't be all that much more compact than a 19.

Not to beat a dead horse about this concept that a single stack 9 won't be all that smaller than a G26 as it might not be all that smaller in all dimensions. But it'll likely be thinner (significantly) than the G26 and this is the dimension that most affects concealability and comfort particularly if you carry Appendix. Which I do....



G26 compared to G42...the above difference in thickness is not only significant it's pretty huge if one carries Appendix. If given a single stack Glock 9mm with this much difference in thickness I'll give up a few rounds.

But I wanted to illustrate that the difference between the G26 and G42 might not be significant or huge but it is where it counts - the thickness. This alone is why I'll wait for a single stack Glock 9mm and give it fair evaluation when it gets here.

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Maybe this is more about "perception" than it is anything in reality.

I carry a 17 "appendix" every day, and I carry a 26 as well, either in a Smart Carry or an ankle holster. I carry a double reload for the 17 as well.

The double stack Glocks really arent all that fat, and to me, the difference in thickness between the 42 and 26, or any of the other Glocks for that matter, really isnt anything to worry about. Thats why I question if it isnt sensitivity, and perception.

As far as the 9mm single stack version, I seriously doubt its going to be the same size as a 42, which just drives it more towards the 26, and as I said before, it makes no sense to me, to give up what you lose by downsizing the 26's capacity and compatibility with the other models.

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Thats why I question if it isnt sensitivity, and perception.

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Why would you question it?

No doubt some people are more sensitive to size than others. No way I could even think about carrying a full size weapon concealed under the suit shirt/pants that I wear every day. What exactly are you questioning?

Do you believe that the people who perceive the G42 as being thinner are wrong? Pic should be enough, actual measured dimensions are readily available if you doubt the pic.

Not to beat a dead horse about this concept that a single stack 9 won't be all that smaller than a G26 as it might not be all that smaller in all dimensions. But it'll likely be thinner (significantly) than the G26 and this is the dimension that most affects concealability and comfort particularly if you carry Appendix. Which I do....

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The .380 Glock 42 isn't all that great a comparison. A 9mm single stack will have to have considerably more mass in the slide to handle the significantly hotter 9mm parabellum. I repeat, unless Glock re-engineers the slide to make it narrower, the gun isn't going to be all that much more compact. Sure, the frame width will be a bit less, but if it uses the same slide as the 19 or the 26, the part that goes in the holster (and thus inside the waistband in any IWB holster, appendix or otherwise), isn't going to be one whit more compact. This may be the main reason why Glock hasn't introduced a single stack 9mm yet. Unless they make the slide thinner, it just doesn't offer enough advantage over their current models to be worth doing.

Do you believe that the people who perceive the G42 as being thinner are wrong? Pic should be enough, actual measured dimensions are readily available if you doubt the pic.

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No, not "wrong", just not maybe "realistic", in their comparisons, especially when it comes carrying things.

I have both in the pic, Im not basing this on what Im seeing or hearing on the web. I know exactly what those guns feel like, in the hand and when carried.

Ive always carried full sized handguns and a back up, most of my life. Thats all day, every day too. Once you realize that if you use good gear and learn to carry, you can pretty much carry anything, if youre willing to do so. You just have to be willing to work at it and do it.

It just seems more and more these days, with the trend towards smaller guns, and more people now carrying, many who havent had to deal with only carrying the larger guns all along, who seem to have a different perception of what is realistically possible, and what they can carry.

When I hear that things like a Glock 19 or 26 or similar are "to large" to possibly be carried, I have to wonder, what are they doing wrong, that they cant? But thats based on carrying larger, and multiple guns all the time, and not on what I think might or might not work, based on who knows what.

The other scary thing to me is, why wouldnt you choose your gun based on what you shoot best with, instead of what you "think" you can hide best? I often think people are looking at the whole thing backwards.

Where can I get some of that Glock toothpaste? I can't find it on the Glock web page. Is it only available in Austria or something?

If Glock does create a single stack 9mm you can bet the farm it will be much thinner than the 17/19/26 pistols. Now if they would only create a nice thin single stack 10mm I could spend my semi-retirement in complete bliss.

Do you believe that the people who perceive the G42 as being thinner are wrong? Pic should be enough, actual measured dimensions are readily available if you doubt the pic

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No, not "wrong", just not maybe "realistic", in their comparisons, especially when it comes carrying things.

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Reality is a G42 AND a holster will be thinner than Glocks other 9mm offerings.. In addition a G42's slide is thicker than a standard 1911's. There is no perception about that....

Since I don't worship at the alter of the glock I always search for other proven viable designs before resorting to glock.Thus the only Glock I've owned was the G20, and my next glock will be the 40.

Am I opposed to a single stack Glock 9mm, not a bit as long as it has a real advantage other than name over my Shield. It could be lighter and slimmer, but not more reliable, and for sure not in the 350 buck range.

In addition a G42's slide is thicker than a standard 1911's. There is no perception about that....

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Mmmmm, where are you getting that?

Glock 42 slide 0.83" grip 0.90

Colt 1911 slide 0.92 grip 1.34

Glock 26 slide 1.00 grip 1.18

Like I said, peas and princess's.

AK, I agree. I too think people these days are viewing the carry thing backwards. It seems the majority are more concerned about ease of carry than they are what will do best the very thing they carry for.

I think we should ask ourselves what is the revolver/pistol we would most like to have on our person if and when the moment comes you need it.

I'm no Glock fan either, but a single stack nine? Not for me from any maker.

Mmmmm, where are you getting that?

Glock 42 slide 0.83" grip 0.90

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Glock USA where they only measure the slide.....

G42
24 mm / 0.94 in.
G26
30.00 mm / 1.18 in.

http://us.glock.com/products/model/g42

A little birdie told me it's coming. But they have to get it right first. The single stack .45 was a turd. They don't want to lose their butts on another loss.

It's hard to produce a single stack Glock that won't look stupid shooting next to a G26 or G19. Anyone can make a Keltec PF9, but comparing the PF9 to a G26 is like the shooting a DAO revolver vs. a 1911.

Glock USA where they only measure the slide.....

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Maybe they shrink with use.

Im measuring the ones I have with a set of digital calipers, and they seem to be correct when measuring things of a known size.

I cant come up with the Glock numbers youre stating, anywhere on the slides. Your numbers look to be the grip, and not the slides.

I cant come up with the Glock numbers youre stating, anywhere on the slides. Your numbers look to be the grip, and not the slides.

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Those are their published numbers not mine.


I dont carry any of my Glocks cause the "pea" is way to thick...

I dont carry any of my Glocks cause the "pea" is way to thick...

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Funny how the mind works.

Funny how the mind works.

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well your post had me wondering about the true numbers and not from Glocks website.

soooooooo.... My Wifes CCW (19c) vs. Mine (4" 1911).
(I have tried to carry hers in the same type Milt Sparks IWB and couldnt stand it.)

See, it is all about perception.
(your numbers pretty much mimic mine too)

Ive carried both 1911's and Glocks (more a 17 than a 19 though), both in Sparks VMII's, as well as Blade Tech IWB's, in the same spot, and couldnt tell you which was which if I swapped them out. I carried full size SIG's in the same type holsters, in the same spot as well, and same thing.

Then again, Im accustomed to carrying full sized guns, so they arent alien feeling to me.

I actually find the smaller guns more of a chore to deal with carrying, as they tend to be "deeper" in the layers, and are after all, "back ups" to the "real" gun.

No matter what, whatever it is you carry, I hope you practice realistically with them on a regular basis, and from however it is you carry them (not just popping rounds off at bulls eye now and then). While they tend to be a little more of a challenge to shoot well with (the 42's and 26's are exceptions to that rule though), the hardest part with them, usually isnt shooting them.

Your point is???

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My point is that everyone who needed a single stack nine to serve a purpose, has already purchased one.

Ya, every year new gun buyers come of age and sometime in the future they may buy a Glock single stack nine because they feel it is the best choice to fill a need, but if and when Glock ever comes out with their single stack, most of the initial buyers will be Glock aficionados who will be primarily purchasing the gun because they want the new Glock - really for not much more reason than that, and they like Glocks.

My first handgun was a Glock. I've branched out but I still like Glock. I just bought a Ruger LC9 though, because I'm not going to hold out for Glock to give the public what they want.

Glocks is a baffling company, kind of like Apple. Gaston and Jobs were very similar kinds of guys, real Svengali/cultish leaders that had a 'vision' for the company that they adhered to. And look at the iPhone; for years Samsung ate their lunch with their Galaxy S series of larger phones, but Jobs wouldn't bring a competitive phone to market. In his opinion "no one wanted" a big phone! Of course, after Jobs died they did bring a new iPhone out in the same size class as the S4- and it crushed Samsung! Turns out people did want one, it just that it didn't fit with Job's notions of what an iPhone should be.

I think the mythical single stack Glock would be the same. Like the iPhone the Glock is technically mediocre (compared to best competitors) but it's a marketing juggernaut. I'd rather have a Bersa BP9CC, Beretta Nano, Ruger LC9S or Walther PPS vs a single stack Glock (assuming it was similar to existing Glocks just thinner) but if Glock did make one they're instantly be one of the top sellers in the market. I think that overnight they'd be neck and neck with the Shield to tell you the truth. A lot of people just did that Glock Kool-Aide.

I just can't seem to get into single stack 9s. I prefer a double stack 9mm if I can carry it. If my dress does not allow it, then a pocket .380 is about all I can get away with.

I did handle the g42 at a shop last week. Lovely feeling pistol in hand if a tad larger than I like.

It's called a berreta nano