HenryRifle
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Purchased a new Browning Model 380/1911. I really liked this gun and was anxious for them to get on the shelves. I liked the fit and feel, and break down is simple and the same as the 1911/22. The extreme light weight was a huge selling point, as well as the fact that it is a true 1911 design. Size has never been a concealment or carry issue for me, but weight always has been. This gun is measured in ounces, not pounds (rare for a true 1911 design). It is genuinely light. Open bottomed holsters for the Colt Mustang or Kimber MicroCarry fit it well, and are somewhat common. Grips from the 1911/22 also fit the 380.
Experienced five fail to feeds (WWB 95g) out of one hundred rounds fired. These are a flat point bullet, so I wasn’t too surprised. A bullet with more roundness to it would have faired much better IMO, but WWB is what I had on hand and I wanted to shoot. All empty cases ejected without issue. Primer strikes in the fired cased were deep and solid.
Recoil was extremely manageable – four finger grip on an almost full size gun in a smaller caliber. It had a bit of a “1911 push” to it, but nothing snappy like a .38+P 637 airweight revolver. Follow up shots were a breeze and it was easy to stay on target. Recoil will not be an issue with kids, ladies, or someone with a physical limitation. It’s an easy shooter. Barely more than the 1911/22.
I liked the fact that the sights would not snag on clothing. However, I was disappointed that the front is not replaceable (rear is dovetailed into slide). This is advertised as a carry gun, and night sights, or at least the ability to add them, would have been nice although the gun has great pointability. Kind of like when a shotgun fits you correctly – it just finds the target without “aiming”. Dancing cans with this .380 at fifteen or twenty yards was no real challenge.
Trigger pull was fairly light and predictable. It broke clean and had a nice feel to it.
Press checks required more effort than most 380’s. I found that by pressing down on the barrel through the ejection port that it would help toggle the lug to unlock smoothly. I also found press checks easier as the number of rounds in the magazine reduced (it’s an 8+1). The magazine spring pushes the rounds against the bottom of the slide with enough force to impact pulling the slide back slightly to view the chamber. Seems that the slide comes back either all the way to the point of cycling or not at all – was difficult to find that middle ground, especially if the chamber was loaded. I am betting this gets easier as things break in somewhat. If not I can tolerate.
The left side safety engaged positively, and I liked the extended controls on the thumb safety levers and slide lock.
On cleaning after returning home, I noticed the right side thumb safety was loose to the point of rattling. The roll pin had worked itself almost completely out of the top (right at the verge of falling out). I reinstalled it, but right side thumb safety lever was still loose. (I had minimally utilized the thumb safety during shooting, as it really wasn’t necessary for my shooting conditions that day. Used left side safety to operate when I did engage it). As such, I can’t say if this happened after the first shot or the hundreth. Left side safety still engaged properly. At that point, the gun was returned to the Browning Service Center. Summary: “Purchased Thursday afternoon, fired 100 rounds Friday (thumb safety fell apart), returned to Browning on Monday”. Browning replaced the gun, rather than repairing it, at their option (two week turn around).
I tested the replacement gun last night. Fired 101 rounds, and the right side safety lever is still tight. I will be adding some loctite to this just for peace of mind and keeping an eye on it. I also used some round nose bullets, and had much better feeding (as suspected).
I was informed by Browning Staff that one of the parts in the safety mechanism on my original gun was out of spec. Please pay close attention to the joint with the roll pin in the right side safety lever should you purchase one of these. Although mine seemed tight when I bought it, and did not loosen until I put a couple of boxes of ammo through it.
I like the gun a great deal in general. Pricey, but it had a multitude of features that fit my needs. I’m finding it to be a little picky on ammo, but confident I will find something it feeds reliably enough to carry.
I will review the performance of Browning’s Service Center in another thread.
Experienced five fail to feeds (WWB 95g) out of one hundred rounds fired. These are a flat point bullet, so I wasn’t too surprised. A bullet with more roundness to it would have faired much better IMO, but WWB is what I had on hand and I wanted to shoot. All empty cases ejected without issue. Primer strikes in the fired cased were deep and solid.
Recoil was extremely manageable – four finger grip on an almost full size gun in a smaller caliber. It had a bit of a “1911 push” to it, but nothing snappy like a .38+P 637 airweight revolver. Follow up shots were a breeze and it was easy to stay on target. Recoil will not be an issue with kids, ladies, or someone with a physical limitation. It’s an easy shooter. Barely more than the 1911/22.
I liked the fact that the sights would not snag on clothing. However, I was disappointed that the front is not replaceable (rear is dovetailed into slide). This is advertised as a carry gun, and night sights, or at least the ability to add them, would have been nice although the gun has great pointability. Kind of like when a shotgun fits you correctly – it just finds the target without “aiming”. Dancing cans with this .380 at fifteen or twenty yards was no real challenge.
Trigger pull was fairly light and predictable. It broke clean and had a nice feel to it.
Press checks required more effort than most 380’s. I found that by pressing down on the barrel through the ejection port that it would help toggle the lug to unlock smoothly. I also found press checks easier as the number of rounds in the magazine reduced (it’s an 8+1). The magazine spring pushes the rounds against the bottom of the slide with enough force to impact pulling the slide back slightly to view the chamber. Seems that the slide comes back either all the way to the point of cycling or not at all – was difficult to find that middle ground, especially if the chamber was loaded. I am betting this gets easier as things break in somewhat. If not I can tolerate.
The left side safety engaged positively, and I liked the extended controls on the thumb safety levers and slide lock.
On cleaning after returning home, I noticed the right side thumb safety was loose to the point of rattling. The roll pin had worked itself almost completely out of the top (right at the verge of falling out). I reinstalled it, but right side thumb safety lever was still loose. (I had minimally utilized the thumb safety during shooting, as it really wasn’t necessary for my shooting conditions that day. Used left side safety to operate when I did engage it). As such, I can’t say if this happened after the first shot or the hundreth. Left side safety still engaged properly. At that point, the gun was returned to the Browning Service Center. Summary: “Purchased Thursday afternoon, fired 100 rounds Friday (thumb safety fell apart), returned to Browning on Monday”. Browning replaced the gun, rather than repairing it, at their option (two week turn around).
I tested the replacement gun last night. Fired 101 rounds, and the right side safety lever is still tight. I will be adding some loctite to this just for peace of mind and keeping an eye on it. I also used some round nose bullets, and had much better feeding (as suspected).
I was informed by Browning Staff that one of the parts in the safety mechanism on my original gun was out of spec. Please pay close attention to the joint with the roll pin in the right side safety lever should you purchase one of these. Although mine seemed tight when I bought it, and did not loosen until I put a couple of boxes of ammo through it.
I like the gun a great deal in general. Pricey, but it had a multitude of features that fit my needs. I’m finding it to be a little picky on ammo, but confident I will find something it feeds reliably enough to carry.
I will review the performance of Browning’s Service Center in another thread.