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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-any-legislation-will-ban-assualt-weapons-semi-automatic-rifles-or-handguns-and-high-capacity/bjlkvNSf PLEASE SIGN.... email and spread the word its gotten over 17k in only 3.5 days lets blow this thing up!

PPS If you look on the description on the page s&w does list it as Model 45c My guess is since the only difference between that and their standard frame non longslide model is a smaller frame they use the same engraving for the slides saves on time and production. Why engrave two slides of...

Model: M&P45c Overall Length: 7.55" Overall Height: 4.8" Model: M&P45 Overall Length: 7.55" Overall Height: 5.5" Model: M&P40c Overall Length: 6.7" Overall Height: 4.3"

Dab from My experience the 45c has about the same size and feel as a glock 19 in the size. Holds 8 rounds with the pinky ext mag or flush whichever you prefer. As you probably already know the 9 and 40 C's are close in size to the baby glocks. The 45c has about a half inch longer length. It has...

Might want to do some research before posting there PPS http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_766268_-1_757782_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Personally my choice for what you are looking for if your not into glocks is an M&P or M&Pc. You listed the SDD9 as one of your options which is basically just a slightley cheaper (in price) and much less (features and quality) M&P. I would see if you could find a good deal on an M&P full size...

Say a prayer for the victims loved ones. National Guardsmen appeard to be the target but we may never know what this dirtbags true intentions were. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/

IMO Not to buy.

Amen to that lawdawg I think most of us that do alot of firearms related reading will each have a story like that. IE one that comes to my mind is the whatever state trooper (I can't remember the state). He shot this MASSIVE man 4 times center mass with his then issue .357 the guy was taken...

Well you don't have too Pennant BEHOLD :what::what: P226 Rail Adapter from surefire http://www.surefire.com/MR14-Mounting-Rail

Posted... enjoy :D http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=607250

...to tell anyone what to do, but these are the points I've come to thought on and decided for my pruposes. The only handgun I put a light on is that "**** just hit the fan at 3am somones breaking down my door and I need a gun and a light NOW!!" Best Links to some good pocket...

Pennant were you asking why I think you don't need a rail.... If so I think I will start a seperate thread on that as to not distract from the OP's topic.

I have to agree $300 is a tad low of a bar. But yea the ones reccomended so far that I agree are. Ruger Sr9, S&W Sigma or SD9, Glock Trade in. Best advice is find a place that does layaway and make payments. :D

I would have to agree J. Unless you absolutley NEED a rail, (Lets face it 98% of us can do without one.) The Glock Gen2 IMO is a very fine looking and well handeling firearm. My buddy when I lived in Miami got ahold of a very lightley used Gen2 17 that he carried. I remember one night we took my...

I am not trying to tell you what to do and your a big boy...........however dude be real cautious with that sort of thing on disabling any safety mech. on a carry piece. You I and any other person realizes that your just trying to correct something to make your gun easier to shoot. However on...

You know marb i heard somethig just the other day that you reminded me of. Somone told me... (and i don't know how factual it is). That the Isrealis are a big fan of .22.... Appereantly when they have somone rioting and threatening terrorism in a public scene they find the leader of the rabble...

IMHO....... Both of them are made by decent manufacturers. However one fact that I keep coming back to is that the Ruger is stainless steel. If your in an area where rust is an issue... (Me being in the Pacific Northwest)......... this is a MUST. Just my .02

Sides BFC you are you are carrying a 9mm.......... a 9mm with serious case of the ROIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

LOL YES :D see good fun and humor all around. This thread is progessing niceley...... yea I seriously think that the day the invent somthing like that IE a PHASER.... people will be like huh so it is the perfect direct energy weapon...... WELL MY RED one is better then your BLUE ONE because...