10/22 Now a SPITFIRE

[WALKERs210]

Purchased a 10/22 last year to have a 22 that I could shoot with grandson. Few weeks ago I picked up a laminated stock just to dress it up and it does look great. This week I ran across a friend that had one of those hand crank's that attaches to trigger guard and fires as you turn crank. A little work to get alignment but now it will spit the 22's out unbelievably. First mag was standard 10 rd, and even though I was cranking I was still able to stay on a 8"x10" target. Next was a 25 rd mag, I will admit that some of the rounds were a little more scattered but for what sells at CTD for a whopping $22.00 it is a ton of fun. Just wondering how hard it would be to add a 12v motor to this setup.

 

[taraquian]

Just wondering how hard it would be to add a 12v motor to this setup.

Pretty sure you don't want to do that. BATF would consider it a machine gun

 

[Sam1911]

Just wondering how hard it would be to add a 12v motor to this setup.

Do NOT do that. You will have quite literally and specifically made an unregistered MACHINE GUN in the eyes of the BATFE.

In essence, that's what an electric-powered gatling gun like the M134 is. A simple mechanical firing mechanism driven by an electric motor. By adding a motor, you're making the switch of the motor the "trigger" of the firing mechanism, and then the gun will fire more than one round with each pull of that "trigger."

 

[Ar180shooter]

You're lucky. Here in Canada, even the hand cranked device is a prohibited item.

 

[WALKERs210]

I know that ATF has a very dim view of people doing things just to see if it will work. That being said at my age I don't really want to spend time in the CrossBar Hilton. Besides this would wind up in same argument I've had with the wife. I found hand cranked Gatlin that shoots a 45-70, she had no problem with me buying the gun but then she pointed out just how much it would cost in ammo. Will just stick with the hand crank thing.

 

[jrmoney]

Great buy and hats off to finding something to bond with your grandson! Time that will always be remembered!!! I reccomend some of these simple upgrades to make your rifle even better. Most are very inexpensive and I even made a video on how to install them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ebbwuUc300

 

[Devonai]

Darn it, I was hoping you put a 10/22 into one of these:

 

[TurtlePhish]

Darn it, I was hoping you put a 10/22 into one of these:

That's what I thought when I first clicked the thread

Imagine a model Spitfire with a 10/22 in the fuselage!

 

[Devonai]

There are RC Spitfires out there that are about the right scale. I'd say four 10/22s in each wing for a Mk1 would be just about perfect. Stagger the convergence from 60 meters for the inboard guns to 57m for the outboard in 1m increments. Then you'd need an on-board camera/sighting system to actually hit a target, and a country that won't throw you in jail for 80 years for building it.

 

[TurtlePhish]

There are RC Spitfires out there that are about the right scale. I'd say four 10/22s in each wing for a Mk1 would be just about perfect. Stagger the convergence from 60 meters for the inboard guns to 57m for the outboard in 1m increments. Then you'd need an on-board camera/sighting system to actually hit a target, and a country that won't throw you in jail for 80 years for building it.

THAT is PERFECT. And it's legal if you make each rifle have a separate trigger button, too. As long as there aren't any machine guns involved, there's no problem.

 

[Sam1911]

And it's legal if you make each rifle have a separate trigger button, too.

Separate trigger buttons, each firing one rifle semiautomatically. That'd be a lot of button-pushing to "strafe" a target, but sure would be cool!

 

[Devonai]

I'm pretty sure it's also illegal to arm a civilian aircraft or drone.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

That's what I thought when I first clicked the thread

Imagine a model Spitfire with a 10/22 in the fuselage!

No rabbit would be safe!

 

[Robert]

That'd be a lot of button-pushing to "strafe" a target, but sure would be cool!

Yup, righ up until you plowed it into the ground.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Actually it would be illegal to put it on an RC plane. Can't have an electronic trigger on a gun or it's a machine gun by the ATF.

 

[Sam1911]

Can't have an electronic trigger on a gun or it's a machine gun by the ATF.

Certainly not true. Remington even used to sell a rifle with an electric trigger. http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/survival/gear/1277311

Here's a drop-in unit developed for 10/22s: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=317395

Can't have a trigger than fires the mechanism repeatedly, and depending on how easily programmable the thing was to a multiple-fire mode, the ATF may have a problem with it, but the basic idea is legal.

 

[vaupet]

Now al you need is something like the gsg 110 round rotary magazine found on www.gsg-waffen.de

 

[hang fire]

The crank device acts no different than fast fingering each individual shot. As the trigger has to be released after being fired and then pulled again.

The above does not make for a full automatic machine gun, in which a single trigger pull, fires the weapon fast as the action can cycle.

 

[greyling22]

I wonder if you could take the crack lever off and attach a belt or string around the shaft that turns and pull that, like starting a lawn mower or using the lee zip trim......

 

[Sam1911]

I wonder if you could take the crack lever off and attach a belt or string around the shaft that turns and pull that, like starting a lawn mower or using the lee zip trim......

Hmm...also seems like it would be construed as one operation of the mechanism firing multiple rounds, so probably not going to be ok.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I'm guessing someone who'd build such a contraption would want to check state and federal laws before constructing an RC plane that fired live ammunition. Seems to me the lefty's without imagination or a sense of humor might find this devious.

 

[WALKERs210]

I was into building and flying R/C aircraft for quite a few years. Every so often someone would mound rockets under the wings and launch them at other aircraft. One man used 12ga shotgun shells as bombs, he made a carrier with a nail in nose, on contact the shell went off. I started building a Corsair with 84" wing span several yrs ago and I had intended to mound two CO2 pellet guns in the wings. The plane is still hanging from the roof might actually finish it.

 

[T Bran]

I was thinking more along the lines of a spring loaded assembly similar to a small tape measure. It is amazing what I'll do to avoid using batteries.
As stated above still going to be illegal but fun to envision anyway.
T

 

[greyling22]

bummer sam, but I think you're right about the legality, or lack thereof.

I was envisioning looping part of the string around my thumb on the support arm (I shoot lefty) and sliding it forward toward the muzzle as I shot, unwinding the string, turning the crank, and smiling huge.

 

[WNTFW]

Sam1911,
I met a guy that had an EtronX rifle for sale - don't remember the caliber. Trigger pull was weird as the pull was light and it felt fake. The safety had a rubber boot on it as it was a switch.