10/22 Takedown vs. Regular

[fpgt72]

I am going to bail on this thread now...not much more point....I have made my views known and don't want to get the thread locked.

But I will leave you with this.

I will say that really there are no "bad" guns anymore...they would not last in the market. Everything from the lowest hipoint to the top holland and holland has a place in the market, and they will generally go bang and not boom.

I am saying that the 10-22 is living on its ability to be changed into anything you want it to be....and if not it would not be near as popular as it is now....they do nothing well, but can do a little of everything....you can make it do better by tossing money at it, and in a great many cases this is the only reason they are bought in the first place...I would say 90% of the 10-22's are bought with an eye to changing them from stock in some way shape or form....and why is that....because they are not good enough. And people love them because they love to tinker....fine.

If you love your Ruger, have no fear, unlike other "good" ruger rifles like the 77's they will keep making the 10-22 as they are so cheap to make and have the masses so brain washed to think this is THE autoloading 22 rifle....but be on the watch....if they can get that "american" rifle cheap enough they may just toss your beloved 10-22 into the scrap heap....but even ruger can't be that stupid...it would sure piss off their fan boi owners....but it is not hard to see what the company is pushing....and it is not the 10-22....their new plastic fantastic is so much cheaper....or according to them better.

 

[CraigC]

You're hating just to hate, very little of what you post is founded in reality and it is all completely off topic anyway. No one here has suggested that the 10/22 is the ONLY .22 rifle worth owning. I have owned 45 rimfires. Only six of them have been 10/22's and one of those was given as a gift. So I obviously have an affinity for rimfires other than the 10/22. Either way, they're just rifles. They are what they are, they do what they do and I judge them based on merit. You don't like them, that's fine, duly noted. You're the only one here getting all emotional about it and making it out to be a bigger deal than it is. You obviously had high expectations, were disappointed and can't let it go. You have way more emotional investment in this than I do.

I strongly disagree that 90% of these guns are getting heavily modified. There are millions of them in circulation and I guarantee that those getting gutted are in the minority. Either way, it is a sign that they have far more potential than their factory form, which is not the indictment you believe it to be.

Whatever point you're trying to make in reference to the American is not even coherent.

 

[Choctaw]

I had tried to post to this thread from my phone a few days ago without success. All I managed to do was quote a member.

What I meant to say was we have had two of these rifles, and I still have one. I don't really NEED most of the firearms I have. I'm issued everything I "need." However, I like guns. I like all kinds of guns and buy many that just strike a chord with me. I don't need my TD but it sure is fun and convenient to have around.

 

[Danoobie]

Not necessarily. If you are one who believes that a .22LR's bore should never (or rarely) be cleaned, then it's completely moot.

Yeah, sort of like those 22 rifles they were told they didn't have to clean in Vietnam. I gotcha.

 

[jmorris]

So you tell me there are no other autoloaders out there between the two....even lower priced then the holy grail that work better....naturally not.

I am a take down/break down and all around general .22 "junky". I bet I have a sample of whatever you are thinking about. "Work better" for what? If it's "work better to make the owner happy" it really doesn't matter what the thing can do as long as it makes the owner happy.

 

[CraigC]

Yeah, sort of like those 22 rifles they were told they didn't have to clean in Vietnam. I gotcha.

One has nothing to do with the other. All .22LR bullets are lubed and velocity is such that leading is typically not an issue. It is well proven that .22LR's do not require routine bore cleaning and actually thrive when dirty.

And it has nothing to do with Vietnam, Walter.

 

[fpgt72]

One has nothing to do with the other. All .22LR bullets are lubed and velocity is such that leading is typically not an issue. It is well proven that .22LR's do not require routine bore cleaning and actually thrive when dirty.

And it has nothing to do with Vietnam, Walter.

Come on dude.

 

[gotboostvr]

I strongly disagree that 90% of these guns are getting heavily modified. There are millions of them in circulation and I guarantee that those getting gutted are in the minority. Either way, it is a sign that they have far more potential than their factory form, which is not the indictment you believe it to be.

I agree, there's 4 10/22's in my group of friends and we generally have a hard time leaving good enough alone, from trigger jobs to sights and aftermarket barrels and every other part you could think of. Collectively we have mostly modified guns. BUT all 4 10/22's are factory stock. I may drop my TD in a different stock as I don't care for the Kryptek camo, but it will most likely be a factory black replacement.

If 90% of them were being gutted, we'd have built up at least one by now.

 

[danez71]

Other than a $50 scope, I'm 0 for 3 on modifying 10/22's.

I might, someday, drop in a factory BX trigger in my TD as there's a pretty big difference from that trigger, to the one that has about 75k rounds on it.

Or, more likely, I'll just let nature take its course by putting the 75k rounds thru it and enjoy it au naturel.

 

[maxxhavoc]

I used the TS front tower with a Nodak integrated rear sight/rail so I could also mount a red dot.

More info needed on that rail. Is it all steel? Is it elevation adjustable?

I have the M1 Carbine-like 10/22, and the rear sight is mostly plastic and, well, it sucks.

 

[CraigC]

Nodak/Spud is the source. It's all hard anodized aluminum. Standard AR type, windage adjustable flip dual aperture. Elevation adjustment is done with the front sight. Works just like the standard Tech Sights but the quality is better.

 

[midland man]

well let me say this I have three 22 rifles as I just bought my third one here recently! I have of course the henry h001 leveraction which is a great rifle! plus I do own a ruger 10/22 in stainless steel black plastic stock which it shoots good but not as accurate as my henry leveraction 22 is! but I just got this new savage model 62f at Walmart for $99 and I gotta say this savage shoots way more accurate with cci blazers and way more accurate overall than my ruger 10/22 and trust me I have a variety of ammo here and have tried all I have just to see what these guns like! well for one the henry loves the Winchester m-22 the ruger 10/22 does good with Remington thunderbolts and for the save like I said the cci blazers! but yeah I love this little savage rifle so much I rather have it over the ruger 10/22 and of course the henry beats both of them but as far as the ruger to savage I love the savage much better!! isn't it funny how a $99 22 can be a very serious out of the box shooter compared to the ruger 10/22!!

 

[bluzman]

Only complaint with the factory 10-22TD I have is the scope mount is on receiver not the barrel. I took care of that ! When the scope is on the barrel there are no take down accuracy issues.

I have a UTG 3-9x32mm Bug Buster scope mounted on my Takedown. It stays mounted on the receiver when the Takedown is in its storage bag. Once I had properly adjusted the lock-up mechanism (pg 15-16 of manual), I had no accuracy issues. In fact, the scope, which comes with a set of QD rings, seems to hold zero even after it's removed and reinstalled. YMMV

With all of that said, however, it's not as accurate as my CZ 455 Trainer.

 

[danez71]

I have a UTG 3-9x32mm Bug Buster scope mounted on my Takedown. It stays mounted on the receiver when the Takedown is in its storage bag. Once I had properly adjusted the lock-up mechanism (pg 15-16 of manual), I had no accuracy issues. In fact, the scope, which comes with a set of QD rings, seems to hold zero even after it's removed and reinstalled. YMMV

With all of that said, however, it's not as accurate as my CZ 455 Trainer.

How do you like that scope? Decent enough?

I have a Simmons 22mag 3-9x32 on my TD now. I'm ok with it but I'd like something shorter to have a little cushion room while in the bag

 

[bluzman]

How do you like that scope? Decent enough?

I have a Simmons 22mag 3-9x32 on my TD now. I'm ok with it but I'd like something shorter to have a little cushion room while in the bag

I like the scope a lot. It incorporates all the features that I typically want - illuminated mil-dot reticle, easily accessible locking turrets, an adjustable objective, QD rings. It's mounted on a "UTG Tactical Low Profile Rail Mount for Ruger 10/22 Rifle" that I got from Amazon. For me at least, it's the perfect set up in terms of eye relief and a proper cheek weld.

 

[jared c]

in my 20 years of shooting I've only had the pleasure of shooting one modified 10/22 . with larger barrel it seemed more accurate when being hot on the trigger. all others I've shot were OEM and left me wanting one for years. I just purchased a take down model and put 300 rounds through it with only 2 issues. one jam and one failure to eject .. both occasions I was being hot on the trigger like rambo with ruger 25 round mag. the take down feature was nice to easily remove the failure to eject. no issues with accuracy with iron sights at 100ft. I have a marlin lever action 22lr with scope which of course seems more accurate at distance with no action bouncing about. but I honestly have more fun shooting the ruger. out of the box with only 2 mishaps while being a retard on the trigger seems highly acceptable to me. glad I made the purchase

 

[Jackal]

I've owned a lot of takedown rifles and one thing Ive noticed, I NEVER TAKE THEM DOWN. Its always just been a useless gimmick to me, since I never use the feature. With that in mind, I'd just save the $$$ and get a standard one.

 

[Bushpilot]

My 2 cents worth:

While the 10-22 take down works pretty good, I personally wouldn't choose one over the standard model, especially if you want to scope it, that is unless you really need it to break down for hiking, camping, storage on a boat or airplane or as a packed away survival tool or whatever. It just depends which you value the most, the slightly better accuracy and the ability to maintain a zero over longer periods vs the ability to make it compact when needed. Don't get me wrong, the take down model/feature works pretty well but there is a reason Browning puts the optional scope mount on the barrel of the SA rather then on the receiver.

 

[berettaprofessor]

Plus, you get a really cool case in which to carry the rifle around, which doesn't look like it's carrying a firearm (to those who don't recognize the red Ruger logo) and it will hold a couple extra BX-25 mags and a couple hundred round boxes of ammo as well.

Getting this thread back on track; That's all you put in the TD case? Mine has 2 BX25's, 3 10-rounders, a couple of hundred rounds that are vacumn-packed loose, a water filter, water purification tablets, first aid kit, machette, flashlight, crank-operated radio, whistle, mylar blanket, compass, matches, mag/steel spark lighter, fishing line and hooks, paracord, pocket knife, and probably a few other things I can't think of off the top of my head. I keep the rifle disassembled in the case; it's a real bug-out bag for a scenario that's probably just fantasy in the modern age. But its fun to think about!

I find the TD decently accurate with iron sights, similar or slightly better than the carbine with belly band. Have had a stainless model since they came out and I'm getting ready to scope it with some quick-release rings and a 4X32 fixed Bushnell scope that cost $10 in a clearance bin at the Bushnell outlet in KC. I almost bit on the Magpul stock for the TD when it was on sale for $95...but procrastinated and lost my chance. Oh well, it'll probably get that low again sometime.

 

[stolivar]

My TD stays zeroed no matter how many times I take it apart. Very accurate out to 100 yards with making clays into little pieces with my 4 power scope

 

[reppans]

I got one after seeing the Magpul Backpacker stock - love the idea of the compact, one piece, survival rifle that stows mags, Ammo and a cleaning kit inside the stock. I like riding motorcycles/bicycles to my gun club and this allows me to take a rifle in my backpack or saddle bags. Accuracy seems fine for me just shooting off hand with the stock iron sights. I would have really liked to leave the scope rail on and use my quick release scope off another rifle for occasional distance/accuracy plinking, but the rail blocks the iron sights.

Haven't had great luck with reliability with mine though... first 600 rounds mine's had 2-3% consistent failures - half bullet jams in the mag and half stove-pipes (and random as to OEM 10rnd Mag, Ammo, or cleaning). Next 600, the jams have reduced, so hopefully it's a break-in issue. From research on rimfirecentral, the stovepipes seem to magazine related, probably similar to this review of their new .22 bolt action.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2018/3/8/tested-ruger-precision-rimfire-rifle/

I don't know what's considered 'normal' or 'break-in' but I have over a dozen firearms purchased from new, half semis, and only have experienced malfunctions with two of them - both Rugers.

 

[IndianaBoy]

Anyone tried to mount and use Tech Sites on one of the TDs?

-kBob

I have Tech Sights on my 10/22 Takedown. I haven't had to adjust zero since I first dialed them in at the range. I used the tension ring so that the barrel is snug when I assemble the rifle.

My first experience with the 10/22 was a standard carbine that a friend of mine owned that shot 6 inch groups at 25 yards. We gave it a good cleaning with no improvement. That was 20 years ago.


I snagged a Takedown just on a lark. It is great to keep behind the seat of my truck during squirrel season. Not quite as accurate as my CZ 452 Lux. More than accurate enough for squirrel heads. It likes CCI standard velocity and that is mostly what I have fed it.

Reliability has been excellent.

It would absolutely be good enough for something like Appleseed.

I don't have any interest in trying to turn a plinker into a semi-auto benchrest 22. If that is your thing a standard 10/22 is probably a better base to build upon.

 

[IndianaBoy]

There's no real downside, but the takedown feature is really only useful for transport in urban environments. I dont know a single person that would ever take it backpacking (too heavy).

Too heavy? I find this comment strange, but ok.....


I would classify the Takedown as a light weight rifle...

 

[Speedo66]

From their respective sites, Ruger lists the wight of the 10/22 take down as 4.6lbs. As a comparison, Marlin lists the weight of their Papoose 70PSS as 3.25lbs. That's a sizeable difference for backpacking, the Marlin is even a tiny bit lighter than an AR-7.

 

[Varminterror]

Too heavy? I find this comment strange, but ok.....


I would classify the Takedown as a light weight rifle...

Too heavy for backpacking is a statement about packing useless gear when backpacking, not a statement about relative rifle weight.