10/22: Tuning by Adjusting Torque on the Takedown Screw?

[jmorris]

Mine now shoots anywhere from 1/4" to 1 1/2" groups.... I think I'm a good enough shot to see if the modifications I've made have had any effect on accuracy.

If you have a swing of 1.25" using the same ammo, I don't think you are at the sorting ammo level just yet. That is a big difference, like the difference between a stock 10-22 and a clark custom 10-22.

I'd figure out how to get the rifle consistent, good or bad, first.

If you did come across something that actually improved groups by a half inch, it would be lost in the inconsistency of your results as the improvement is inside the "normal" range of your results.

 

[DMW1116]

I just remembered the video I was about torquing the takedown screw also had a layer of electrical tape wrapped around the barrel under the barrel band for cushioning purposes. Maybe this would help my 10/22 with HV ammo. It shoots SV ammo very well, but HV ammo goes downhill fast.

 

[irishlad]

Thats where I got the notion of rubber bedding the barrel instead of traditional bedding. They have alot of conflicting information too.

Action screw torque is a common thread there. Yes some threads do.. Just like here on some threads. I think every forum I've ever been on is that way. Folks sharing their opinions and what works for them. I've got 3 pretty upgraded 10/22s(1 by CPC), for me ammo is usually the biggest difference maker. Enjoy the 10/22 rabbit hole

 

[twofewscrews]

I don't think you are at the sorting ammo level just yet.

Your 100% right. I'm nowhere near sorting ammo yet. I bought some Eley Target, Club, Team and Match as a shortcut to sorting ammo by weight, thickness, etc. I know at some point if I want 1/4" groups every time I'll have to go beyond just buying better ammo and sort through it, but that time has yet to come.

I'd figure out how to get the rifle consistent, good or bad, first.

Your right and consistency is the goal. I consider shrinking the group size, when using CCI SV, from 1" to 3" to 1/4" to 1 1/2" a win. I think further bolt modifications might be needed to decrease group size and make it more consistent, however, that kind of bolt work is beyond my ability.

If you have a swing of 1.25" using the same ammo

I attribute the 1.25" swing in large part to my technique, but also to the rifle itself. With my Savage B-22, completely stock using CCI SV, I consistently shoot 1/2" to 1" groups, with the 1/2" difference being my technique. With better ammo, such as Eley Target the rifle produces 1/4" to 1/2" groups.

That being said, IMHO, a swing of 1" or 2" or 3" wouldn't affect my ability to measure how the modifications have affected the accuracy of the gun.

I compare 30 to 40 different groups at different modification stages to see what effect they have had. For example, I take the high and the low with a free floated barrel, a free floated barrel with a stiffened forend, and a free floated barrel with stiffened forend and the first two inches of the barrel rubber bedded, and compare them to each other. If from free floated to free floated and stiffened the high and the low are both reduced by an inch I can conclude that I have made it more accurate and consistent regardless of the swing/my poor technique.

But, while this has been informative and valuable in its own right, this is all besides the point as my OP was about wheather or not changing the torque value made a difference to group size.

 

[jmorris]

I consider shrinking the group size, when using CCI SV, from 1" to 3" to 1/4" to 1 1/2" a win.

Absolutely, cut group size in half a couple times and they get small quick..

That being said, IMHO, a swing of 1" or 2" or 3" wouldn't affect my ability to measure how the modifications have affected the accuracy of the gun.

Its easer for me to quantify results that are repeatable. One of these makes it easy to see and the other shoots a lot of stuff with "the same" results. One shoots small and I can see small changes, the other, not so much. Improvement in group size gets lost in the patterns.




If I just want to see what a gun can do. I remove the "me" from the equasion.

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[Hookeye]

1022 got a Titan stock, GM match bbl and Volq hammer. Would not go under .5 for five shots at 50 yards w various standard ammo.

SK rifle match did the trick

 

[Hookeye]

Have never seen improvement w std V CCI in any pistol or rifle Ive had. Blazer actually did better.
Its my go to plink or hunting ammo.

Target? SK stuff and go up from there

 

[Hookeye]

I did try screw tension on a couple of other 1022s ( standard and sporter) and removing the bbl band on the std didnt do much.

What i have found is that wood stocks may change over time.
Warp or compress.
Also, some may not have been inlet the best from the start.

Have buds doing NRL22 and spending big bucks. Cool stuff for sure. The 100 yard groups are impressive.

While i like accuracy, am content w sub .5 at 50 yards. And prefer a sporter in wood.

 

[doubleh]

Both of my 10/22 are old. One bought in the '70's and was a leave at home rifle until the early '90's when I decided to turn it into something that would actually hit something smaller than a dinner plate at 25 yards. GM bull barrel and a new stock that I made turned it into an accurate rifle. A few years later but still in the '90's I bought a new one to rebuild into what I wanted. I did take it to the range out of curiosity when new and found it to be a coffee cup saucer group sized shooter, another leave it in the corner of the closet rifle if left box stock gun. Again a GM barrel and a homemade stock made it into an accurate rifle. Ruger may be putting decent barrels on them now but I have all the 10/22 based guns I want so will not find out.

Being the always tinkering around for better accuracy type there is nothing Ruger left of my two but the action, bolts that I have modified, and the take down screws. It's been somewhat expensive but I have enjoyed rebuilding both. The first would do in the .3's regularly at 50 yds. with old Wolf ammo and the second slightly larger without the bull barrel of the first. It started with the bull barrel but was too heavy for the rifle I wanted so I turned it down quite a bit and gave up just a bit of accuracy by doing so but turning it into a nice gun for off hand shooting.

It has been sometime since I have shot either. I went to handguns and seldom take a rifle to the range anymore. The range got new benches that I am not fond of as they were built for people over 6 foot tall to be comfortable at plus they rearranged the target boards and won't replace them until they fall out of the frames and sometimes they stay that way for weeks. For some reason the handgun bays receive better care, probably because there are fewer of them.