10k Round Sig 1911 Test

[J.Bourne]

It was reported somewhere that the Sigarms new 1911 purportedly went 10,000 rounds with no stoppages of any kind, and was only field stripped and cleaned at regular intervals.

I knew that some gun rag did a similar test with the P220, but this was purportedly done in house at Sigarms facility in Exeter, New Hampshire.

Anyone have a link to the info anywhere? I can't find it.

Thanks.

 

[10-Ring]

10,000 rounds & all it got was an occassional cleaning? I wonder how many rounds it went between cleanings. Really, as long as the gun has been properly assembled, 10k should have been fairly easy to achieve w/o hiccups. That should have been expected.

 

[Sean Smith]

The original Colt 1911 went 6,000 in Army testing on multiple guns. All passed. Yawn.

A torture test was conducted on March 3,1911. Each pistol fired 6000 rounds. One hundred shots would be fired and the pistol allowed to cool for 5 minutes. After every 1000 rounds, the pistol would be cleaned and oiled. After firing those 6000 rounds, the pistol would be tested with deformed cartridges, some seated too deeply, some not seated enough, etc. The gun would then be rusted in acid or submerged in sand and mud and more tests conducted. Browning's pistols passed the whole test series with flying colors.

But it can't be the 1911 design, because we know it is unreliable. It must be Sig magic.

 

[SigP220ST_Guy]

Well this is the first I have heard of this done to the new Sig 1911 and unfortunately do not have a link to it. But I do have the link to the P220 10000 round test.
http://www.galleryofguns.com/ShootingTimes/Articles/DisplayArticles.asp?ID=1230


And no not all 1911's would pass a 10k torture test. Just read on another post "Kimber woes" that the recoil spring for the Kimber tactical pro II needs replacing every 800 rounds.

 

[J.Bourne]

Hmmm....

The Kimber 100 round torture test?

Just kidding guys. I love Kimber (I love STIs more to the detriment of my wallet thanks to Sean ).

 

[Sean Smith]

LOL!

 

[PCRCCW]

10000 rnds.....and all they did was clean it. No replaced recoil springs or anything.......hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Im extremely torn...Im not impressed by the # and I think they would have to replace the recoil spring.......or maybe you can just clean these ones.......hey...thats cool!

Shoot well.............

 

[LeonCarr]

It still ain't a Glock .

 

[swingset]

It still ain't a Glock .

True....and your Glock still ain't a Sig.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

 

[denfoote]

The Kimber 100 round torture test?

He!! He!! He!!!

That's why I have a Springer!!

 

[45auto]

I read the test of the Sig 220.

So, realistically speaking, is that a test you would highlight your brand with or let it pass?
Meaning 4-5 malfunctions and a broken part. Is that a realistic, good performance you would expect or do you believe it should have fired all without incident?

In other words, would that test make you feel good about buying that gun or not? The type of gun is not relevant to my question.

Before the "Glockers" kick in, I realize if the test was with a 1911, the gun is a jamming piece of garbage. If it was a Glock, clearly all the malfunctions were shooter induced and the broken part doesn't stop the gun.

Aside from that, what do you think?

 

[Correia]

I don't think that the 10 K is that big of a deal provided it got regular cleanings.

I tested a Springfield once just to see how dirty I could get it before I started to have malfunctions. I used my reloads, soft lead semi wadcutters over bullseye, and it was a dirty load. The lead residue built up pretty quick. Finally at around 800 and some odd rounds I started to have malfunctions when the slide would not go fully into battery. A quick strip, wipe down, and relube and I finished the little steel match I was in no problem.

So 1911s can get pretty darn gummed up before you start to see problems.

 

[MoNsTeR]

A 1911 will continue to feed until the recoil spring drops below about 9 pounds. Replacing it may be advisable but is hardly necessary.

 

[longeyes]

If it gets through the first three mags without a bobble, it's
combat-capable.

 

[SigP220ST_Guy]

I read the test of the Sig 220.

OK sorry for getting off topic here but I am going to respond to this post. It does not surprise me that the P220 broke a trigger pin after 6000+ rounds. Sig recommends replacing springs and pins every 2500 rounds with the P220 and every 5000 rounds on all the other Sig's. And the gun continued to function with the broken pin. He decided to replace it during the test for safety reasons.

I think the pistol performed well. I would like to see a similar test with the P220ST and the GSR.

Before the "Glockers" kick in, I realize if the test was with a 1911, the gun is a jamming piece of garbage. If it was a Glock, clearly all the malfunctions were shooter induced and the broken part doesn't stop the gun.

Ditto that.

BTW I have a Glock too but like my Sig better.