10mm DA Choices??

[ARTiger]

I've been looking for a double action 10mm for a while and recently have started to get serious about buying one. So far, here are the choices I have found . . . .

- New EAA Witness (would probably go with a stock or match)
- Unfired Colt Double Eagle
- S&W 1006, Used 98%

What do you all think of these guns and am I missing any models I should be looking at?

Thanks for the input!

 

[LanEvo`]

I know you said DA, but would you consider a Glock? The G20 and G20C seem popular with 10mm fans.

Among the choices you've listed, I'd probably go with the EAA Witness. Closest thing to a Bren Ten you can find these days. And I like the ergonomics of the CZ platform it's based on.

 

[Coronach]

Are we talking DA/SA or DAO?

The Glock 20 is basically a DAO (striker fired, Safe-Action-System), and is a very good gun. I'm not a huge Glock fan, but that thing sure does work, and is surprisingly easy to shoot. Not winning any beauty contests, though.

Mike

 

[ARTiger]

DA/SA is what I had in mind. I've tried the Glock and it just doesn't feel "right" to me. Can't get past the trigger feel. Leaning to the EAA at this point. I have a CZ which I really like - if only they made 10mm's. The double eagle interests me also becuase I haven't seen very many and the ones I have were in .45ACP.

I can't believe the lack of choices for the 10mm caliber. Would have thought someone like Ruger would have worked that caliber into their P series.

 

[duncan]

Go with the EAA Witness.

Among the dedicated and serious guys who shoot 10mm, the Glock 20 and the EAA Witness are some of the top favs.

JSYK - The Glock 20 is the only 10mm that is in mass use to date.

The SW 10mm semi-auto's are nice too.

 

[MCgunner]

The Glock is "safe action", not DAO. In feel, to me, it's more of a SA without a safety. That's sorta why I don't like 'em for CCW. I want a long DA pull in a DA gun.

 

[jerkface11]

If you get the witness be prepared to do a little bit of tweeking on it. You'll need a stiffer recoil spring. And if you plan on handloading you'll need to modify the ejector. Other than that they're great guns.

 

[larry starling]

All three choices are good. IMHO I would go with the Colt double eagle in 10mm. But I'm a little biased. The Colt's are getting harder to find and more expensive. For a shooter I guess I would go with the EAA. Still in production and easy to get repair work. The Smith is a great gun also but once again OOP and parts getting hard to find....My 2cents

 

[ugaarguy]

The Glock "Safe Action" is in fact DAO when the traditional definitions are used. The striker is partially cocked and the trigger pull finishes cocking the striker, first action, then releases the striker, second action. The closest comparisons in a traditional hammer & mainspring fired pistol would be SIG's DAK, H&K's LEM, and Para Ordnance's LDA systems. All partially cock the hammer/ partially charge the mainspring thereby reducing the trigger pull. Basically the traditional SA and DA definitions don't fit so well. Maybe we should make a new category called PDA - Pseudo Double Action.

 

[paul45]

The unfired double Eagle would be a collector. I would get the Smith for a great shooter

 

[frayluisfan]

DA 10mm

Couple of quick thoughts.
1. As I understand it, the BATFE officially considers the Glock a DA (I know Glock doesn't call it that, but in terms of how it functions, can we agree that it operates the same as a DAO?).
2. I bought an EAA in .45 and returned it to the gun store unfired. Thankfully, they were gracious enough to allow me to return it for store credit since I had not fired it. The thing was a PIECE OF CRAP! 10 round magazines...supposedly. Got 8 in it, then had a wrestling match to get the 9th in (huff...puff..huff...puff), but the 10th was impossible. The slide was sticky and grind-y (if I can put it that way) when I cycled it, and there was a large, visible burr on the back of the barrel where the round is supposed to feed into the chamber. Overall, the workmanship looked crappy, and I thought there was absolutely no way I was going to trust my life to such shoddy garbage. Just one guy's opinion on the EAA.
3. I know what you mean about the feel of the Glock. I am used to Sig's, and hesitated for some time about buying a Glock, because of exactly what you describe. However, I took the plunge, got a Glock 20 10mm, and have loved it. After practicing quite a bit at home by going from ready position to aiming at points on the wall (finger off trigger!), it now points just as naturally for me as the Sig 9mm that I put 3-4,000 rounds through. You can get used to it.

Hope this helps.
Mike (frayluisfan)

 

[ARTiger]

Thanks Mike for the word on EAA as well as new insight on the Glock. I have seen a couple of EAA's upper end products - Stock and Match versions. They seemed well made - not that I doubt their lower end guns may have a few hiccups - especially for what they charge. Even if I bought a Match or Stock version of the EAA, I'd probably still get it seriously tuned by a good gunsmith. I wish I had access to a G20 to shoot it some and see if I could possibly get used to it.

The Colt is looking attractive just for an investment (it's only $450); but I am still going to buy a 10mm shooter even if I get the Dbl Eagle.

Leaning heavily to the 1006 at this point. I'm also remembering a bitter taste for EAA's service I got a few years ago on a Baikal shotgun. Going to do a deal (s) this weekend . . . I'll post back and let y'all know what I end up with.

 

[duncan]

I love 10mm.

If anyone is really serious about bangin 10mm hard as hell, the Glock 20 can take it all day long.

NO OTHER 10MM HANDGUN:

1. Have a variety of aftermarket match grade barrels for target shooting or hunting from stock length to 6".

Here is what I rock during deer and hog hunting:

2. If you like to reload, you can rock some serious hot 10mm Norma loads in your aftermarket barrel and have the polymer frame take up the snap.

3. You can get conversion barrels to rock 357 sig, 40cal, and 10mm out of the Glock 20 platform.

4. A great amount of aftermarket accessories: Several choices of adjustable target and night sights, lots of holster choices, cheap factory mags, etc.

And yeah, the trigger is different but my targets with 2" groups at 50 yards offhand tell me it's a great 10mm gun. A good CGA can polsih your firing pin channel, your firing pin, lighten the firing pin spring a touch, polish your trigger bar connector and drop a 3.5# connector in there and it's a very different trigger than a stock Glock. Straight up - and I rock 1911s with slicked up trigger too.

It's all in your time behind that trigger.

You can't do any of the above with most if not any of the other 10mm handguns. Maybe another expensive barrel but that's it.

With the G20 unit, you have options - like the AR-15 in the carbine world - where is my grenade launcher honey?

Love my SW 610 revolver though

 

[duncan]

Getting a great gun for a deal is awesome.

I understand the collector concept. I've got some HKP7s that I shoot occassionally but they are still shooters.

To me collecting is like having a hot girlfriend and you're celebate