Scrumbag
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No. 1 buck for me, also known as SSG (used by quite a few PHs for dealing with wounded large cats in Africa)
Saying bird shot is not lethal because of limited penetration in gel is in my limited experience not real life.
For those of you using the Federal with FC wad in 00 buck for HD- I'm curious as to your choice : Not that its wrong, I was just under the impression that the FC wad was more beneficial for long range use.... am I missing something ?
Shotguns are the go-to long guns here. We live in a rural area on several acres, it's 51 yards from the front door to the gate across the driveway, and another 100 yards out to the road from the gate. So potentially, longer range than across the room IS a consideration.
I didn't say birdshot isn't lethal, or can't be lethal. I said it wont reliably stop a threat. If birdshot was reliably lethal on large mammals we'd use it for deer hunting. Ballistic gel isn't perfect, but it's very good at approximating wounds in human flesh, and it's repeatable.Victim was hit twice with a load of #8 shot from a 12 guage pump. Both wounds appeared to be lethal in autopsy photos. Saying bird shot is not lethal because of limited penetration in gel is in my limited experience not real life.