14 year old boy shoots mother...ruled justifiable homicide

[V4Vendetta]

"Agree. But some people need to be shot. This was one of those times."

Agreed.

 

[Taurus 66]

So I guess a pellet gun is as good as a .45?

Wrong! Not even close. The pellet didn't strike her with the force of 60 charging elephants, thus, causing her to somersault three times and go rigor mortis within the first flip.

 

[texasguy]

White, who has been in and out of prison during the past 16 years, has convictions for drug offenses, prostitution, writing bad checks and making threats, according to state records.

I wouldnt have a very guilty concience...

 

[Gunsnrovers]

She may have biologically been his mother, but beyond that I would say it's in doubt.

 

[LittleSureShot1994]

Lord,
May this 14 year old boy live a better life, give his grandpa a long life, the 14 year old did the right thing lord. And let me believe his mother did a bad sin.
Make our world a better place Lord. And I shall say...
Amen for every better day.
I can't believe a Mother would do that !!!!
At least that boy can live a life without his mom threatening to kill people (especially family).
Poor, poor, boy...
but that mom had it coming.
-LittleSureShot1994

 

[xds&gsps]

My wife & I are foster parents for children under six (years old) & I have met a few mother's that I would like to shoot for the horrible things they have done to these sweet little children & the things these children have endured because of their "parents". We had a 6 year old little boythat knew things that I had no idea what they were until jr. high or high school. God bless this young man & all the children that have to deal with this type of thing in a world where growing up w/ "normal parents" is hard enough.

 

[insidious_calm]

14 year old shoots mother in self defense with christmas gift...

Wow, just wow.....


http://www.cjonline.com/stories/122905/bre_pelletgun.shtml


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Woman shot with pellet gun dies after crash

The Associated Press

WICHITA -- A Salina woman who died after a car crash had been shot in the heart minutes earlier with a pellet gun that her 14-year-old son had gotten as a Christmas gift from his grandfather, police said Wednesday.

Police said the teen was protecting the grandfather when he fired the air rifle Tuesday afternoon at his mother, Elizabeth White, who had a history of drug problems and run-ins with the law.

The death has been ruled a justifiable homicide, Capt. Randy Landen, of the Wichita Police Department, said during a news conference.

"This is a tragic situation," he said.

White, 40, had spent the weekend in Wichita after she was invited to spend Christmas at the house where her 73-year-old father and her 68-year-old mother were raising her children.

Police said the altercation happened after White returned to the home Tuesday. Armed with scissors, White threatened to kill her father, who had only a cane to defend himself. His wife grabbed a kitchen knife.

When the argument moved into the front yard, Landen said the teen's grandfather tripped over a planter.

As his mother -- still armed with scissors -- moved toward her fallen dad, police said the teenager stepped onto the front porch and aimed. He fired only one shot from about 20 feet away, striking his mother in the heart.

After throwing the scissors at her son, White took off in a car. Authorities think the wound caused her to lose control of her car, which she crashed a short time later near a Wichita middle school.

The car struck two poles, went through a fence and hit a parked sport utility vehicle before it jumped the curb and came to rest in a yard, with the engine on fire. White died later Tuesday at a Wichita hospital after undergoing emergency surgery.

State correctional and court records show that White has spent more time in prison than out over the past 16 years.

White, who got out of prison for the last time a little more than a year ago, has convictions for drug offenses, prostitution, writing bad checks and making threats.

Define courage, see above......


I.C.

 

[Shipwreck]

Damn....

 

[Third_Rail]

Courageous lad. A pity he had to do that - but what a shot.

 

[Sindawe]

Search is your friend

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http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=173625

 

[Carlos]

Now, that's what I call justice.

I do hope the kid doesn't suffer too long over this.

 

[V4Vendetta]

"Now, that's what I call justice."

True. I just wished it could've been someone else. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[saberstitch]

I was watching this on the local news yesterday (I live near Wichita). The pellet rifle was one of the cheap, foreign wood stocked single cocking ones. I was kinda surprised it would have the power to penetrate and pierce her heart. They showed her picture and she was a pretty big gal.

 

[WarMachine]

This and those hot summers are further proof that this world is in a slow fall to hell...

 

[jlc]

The way I read it, the mother died from injuries sustained in an auto accident. Police speculate that the pellet injury may have caused her to lose control, but with the limited information here, I don't want to leap to conclusions... would she have died were it not for the accident? Was she high or intoxicated? Did the pellet actually penetrate her heart, or is being "shot in the heart" just an expression here for the upper mid torso, without respect to penetration?

Not enough information, and a possibly misleading headline, in my opinion.

a .177 pellet at 900fps at 20 feet...assuming 7.9 grains...I guess that could do something, if it got around the sternum?

 

[MarkDido]

So I guess a pellet gun is as good as a .45?

Yeah, I don't want to hear any more "I wouldn't carry a 9mm for self defense!"

 

[CentralTexas]

Wow

I guess my mom was right those things can put your eye out (or your lights)!

CT

 

[lawson]

it's a tragic story, but the kid probably didn't consider her his mother (or much of one, anyway). i've known a lot of people that don't care about their parents for the same reason, but have undying devotion for the people that raised them and took care of them (grandparents, relatives, foster parents, adopted parents, etc.).

as for the penetration issue, if there was much of a high difference, the pellet may have come up from underneath the sternum.

there was a case in my town a few years back of two brothers playing around with a BB gun, and one of the BB's managed to penetrate one boy's heart and killed him pretty quickly.

 

[meef]

i think all people are evil and some of us are just smart enough to keep it in check.

Golly..... aren't you just a bundle of sunshine?

I'm glad I don't have that particular philosophy as a personal guiding principle.

 

[Werewolf]

I'm sure most everyone knows this but most air rifles today can pump out a .17 or .22 caliber pellet at 1000 fps or better. That's not much lower than a lot of .22LR bullets pop out of the end of a real rifle.

A .22LR can penetrate 6 inches of pine from 20 or so yards away so a pellet at 1000FPS should be able to penetrate the breast bone. A pellet is small enough that if it did penetrate the heart it would take time to kill one. However , I think assuming it penetrated the breast bone that there wouldn't be enough energy left to penetrate the toughest muscle in the body wouldn't be unreasonable but it might bruise or otherwise damage it enough to cause stress at a level that could easily impair one's ability to drive.

Just my .02...

 

[stevelyn]

Darwin in action.

 

[drinks]

Velocity

Werewolf;
Actually, copywriters for air rifle co.s have some doing over 1000fps, most ads do not claim quite that and most reviewers who use a chronometer get figures 150 to 350 fps below the ad's claims.
Just for grins, I bought a rifle claiming 1000 fps, my chronograph , with the lightweight pellets, which should give the highest velocities, showed 740fps on my chronometer, caveat emptor!

 

[RioShooter]

This female was not a "Mother" to this child. She was only the egg donor.

I hope she only had one child!

May she rest in peace. It doesn't appear that she had any on earth.

 

[lee n. field]

White, 40, of Salina, had spent the weekend in Wichita after she was invited to spend Christmas at the house where her 73-year-old father and her 68-year-old mother were raising her children.

White, who has been in and out of prison during the past 16 years, has convictions for drug offenses, prostitution, writing bad checks and making threats, according to state records.

Sad story. Very sad, for multiple reasons.

it just strikes me as odd that someone should be suprised by something like this.

We Calvinists have a word for that.

No, I'm not surprised when things like this happen. There sometimes seem to be no bottoming out on human stupidity or evil.

I thank the Good Lord above I had a boring childhood! Two wonderful women, and this poor kid ends up with this evil witch. I hope he gets some professional help, and gets through this OK.

"And all the people said. . . .AMEN!"

 

[one-shot-one]

well

Golly..... aren't you just a bundle of sunshine?

I'm glad I don't have that particular philosophy as a personal guiding principle.

some see the glass as half full others as half empty, to me it seems to depend on if water is being added to or taken out of the glass. seems to me that the water is being removed from the glass quicker each day.