1895 Nagant Revolver Club

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krs,

11 days left and that Belgian Nagant is already headed for the stratosphere. Thanks for the head's up, of course. I touched the screen - nearly as good... not! I think I have less invested in my five Ruskies total than that now.

I wonder if the fellow who was going to 'get his c&r ffl after payday' had any luck? The money involved was less than half a Nagant - but the time & effort it takes to get one is a bit involved. I renewed mine this past summer (Every three years.)... even that isn't 'fun'.

Stainz
 
Yeah, it'll go high. That seller always gets top dollar because he knows his stuff or does the research and puts on a great photo array.

What bothered me about the kid above and the C&R was his saying that 'his friend' would be getting a license soon so HE would be able to buy a Nagant.

That's not the intent of a C&R - that one guy gets one to supply all his buddies with Nagants. Gives us all trouble when things like that get found out by BATF. Something about straw purchasing they don't like. Dunno why....:rolleyes:
 
The Nagant Revolver Club thread seemed to die off in 2008. Since I own a couple Nagants, and like seeing other people's Nagants, I thought I might try to bring it back to life:) Of course, it has been dead for five years, so this may be a futile effort:eek:

Here's my MTs-4 Model 2 Nagant Revolver.


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It is a target model built on a 1944 Izhevsk service model sometime in the late 1950s-early 1960s. Soviet competition shooters had some issues with the balance and weight of the MTs-4 Model 1, so the Model 2 was created. The gun was also converted to single-action by removing the double-action spring and mechanism from a standard double-action trigger. Some Model 2 target revolvers (not mine unfortunately) were actually built on the short-framed Commander's Model of the M1895 Nagant revolver. Approximately 8200 revolvers were converted to the MTs-4 Models 1 and 2.

Here's a photo of the MTs-4 next to a standard service model.

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And, here's a photo of the single-action converted hammer. The top photo is the target model hammer, and the bottom photo is a standard double-action hammer. You can probably see that someone also thinned the bottom leaf of the mainspring and did some filing at the trigger/hammer contact point.

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Please post some of your M1895 Nagant Revolvers!! I would love to see what is out there. It doesn't matter if you have a standard 40's refurb or an 1899 Imperial Tula, they're all fascinating to me!!
 
The Russian Nagants are simply irresistible! Simple in design yet so complicated in the ammunition required! :)
 
One of my 'shooter' 1895 Nagants:

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How is that for a 'tactical' pair, a Nagant and a Vic SAK (ALOX Farmer)? I no longer fear feral ferrets!

Stainz
 
Considering picking up a 1945 tula for $150, with ppu available at $24 a box. Is it worth the cash? Also where could i get an original holster like Stainz's (to match my mosin ammo pouches)?
 
Teacher thanks for bringing this back online, I got slapped down hard for suggesting a nagant in the regular revolver thread.
 
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Teacher thanks for bringing this back online, I got slapped down hard for suggesting a nagant in the regular revolver thread.
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That would be because you wanted to use it for your SD/HD gun;)

Nothing wrong with a refurb for a plinker or a survival/camping pack gun. Or, keep your eye out for one with an original finish and start collecting (sometimes you can find them for refurb prices, if you look carefully).

I own several Nagant revolvers, and they will do a better job than trying to fend an attacker off with a knife, but I still keep either a full-size 9mm or .357 snubbie around for covering my butt, and the Nagants in the safe:D
 
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Considering picking up a 1945 tula for $150, with ppu available at $24 a box. Is it worth the cash? Also where could i get an original holster like Stainz's (to match my mosin ammo pouches)?
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$150 isn't bad at all right now for a refurb. 6-12 months ago it would be a bit high. Stainz's holster is actually a postwar 1950's holster and used to come as part of the package with a refurb Nagant. Some places, like liberty tree collectors, sell them separately for about $15-$20. If you keep your eyes open you may come across an original wartime or pre-war holster as well.
 
Thanks for the help. I'm actually surprised Cabela's only has the pistol, I got 2 slings, 2 ammo pouches (one pre/during war and one post war), an oil/shellac bottle, and 2 bayonets (one with matching serial numbers) with my M91/30 from them.
 
You may want to ask them. When I bought my first refurb I didn't know about the holster, cleaning rod, and screwdriver until they asked me if I wanted those as well. They weren't on display with the pistol.
 
1931 Tula

Really fun pistol.
I shorten .223 shells and reform them in a .30 carbine die which leaves a belt near the rim that must be removed on a small lathe.
This actually leaves enough rim to function very well.
 
The Teacher, I took that pic right after I brought that gun home. The grips are getting darker as I handle and shoot the gun.
The revolver is a refurb and the wood was raw, no stain, no oil, no lacquer.

I will add several coats of linseed oil while the gun is in my posession.
 
Teach,

That's actually my little used 1944 Tula Nagant. My most used is my first one, a 1944 Izhevsk produced Nagant, which has more cylinder wear and lighter wood grips.

Stainz

OT - What/where did you teach, Teach? I taught in Alabama's post secondary system from '75 - '95, when I retired with 25yr 9 mos 'in the system' (I had unused sick leave and had bought undergrad work time and military time, enabling me to 'retire' at 46!).
 
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Teach,

That's actually my little used 1944 Tula Nagant. My most used is my first one, a 1944 Izhevsk produced Nagant, which has more cylinder wear and lighter wood grips.

Stainz

OT - What/where did you teach, Teach? I taught in Alabama's post secondary system from '75 - '95, when I retired with 25yr 9 mos 'in the system' (I had unused sick leave and had bought undergrad work time and military time, enabling me to 'retire' at 46!).
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I love those wartime refurbs. They are quite a bit of fun to shoot with the surplus 70's and 80's ammo. I'll post another of my Nagants when I get home tonight to keep this thread moving in the right direction:)

More OT - Over the years, I've taught everything from Musical Theatre to Trigonometry to Critical Reasoning, and everywhere from the ghetto to fancy private schools. Right now I primarily tutor wannabe lawyers trying to get into law school:) I recently returned to the Midwest after a long stint out in California. I'm thinking I may bite the bullet, return to school for my PhD and fully join the ranks of academia. Decisions...decisions...

Sounds like you had a great time teaching and it treated you well! I'm a little jealous of your retirement age;)
 
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My name is Mike and I proudly own a 1936 Tula Nagant. I'm sure it's been refinished but I still just plain love the thing! How can you not? 62 pound trigger, beautiful like Babushka woman, cheap as plastic bottle Vodka! :D

Here's a photo of the 'conventional' ammo I load for this made with Lee's dies and 32-20 brass:

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Here's a partial photo of the Nagant with my ammo:

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I'll take a better photo later and post if for everyone's oooh and aaah pleasure!
 
.32/20 is a try and see if it fits proposition. Some cases will work fine in some revolvers without having to thin the rim & deepen the primer pocket.
 
Surprisingly, these revolvers can be finicky with ammo. I've noticed my surplus cases don't fall out nicely and easily like the prvi brass does. They require a bit of a shove.

Here's another addition to the thread, an 1898 Belgian commercial contract M1895. From 1896-1898 the L. Nagant firm in Liege, Belgium produced 20,000 pistols for a Russian Military contract (which are even harder to find than the commercial model), and an unknown number (estimated around 50,000 based on serial numbers) of commercial M1895 revolvers. The Russian contract revolvers are for the most part single action and have different proof marks than the commercial model. The commercial models are double action and were often purchased by Russian officers from the Russian government or officer supply stores. They were also sold to other countries as well. There is a lot of great information about these and all other Nagant variations at http://www.russianrevolvers.com/nagant_belg.html

There haven't been many observed surviving examples of commercial models, and even fewer Russian contract models. This commercial model is the only one I've personally seen outside of pictures on the internet. It has retained a significant amount of its bluing.

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