Nagant Revolver

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Aside from the bulged cases when shooting 32 H&R magnum in the Nagant, they work fine. Same for the 32 longs.

Only 3 negatives on the Nagant: Ammo availibility(offset by the ability to use the above), DA pull that requires the handstrength of a gorilla and slowness of loading and reloading.
 
Hows the single action pull?

The more I read about these, the more I think it would make the perfect truck handgun I've been looking for. Very tough by all accounts, very accurate, not too loud, and fairly light weight (@ 28 ounces--on par with SP-101, S&W Model 10 or Colt Official Police) . Plus, they appear to be the single least expensive handgun on the market. Loaded with .32 H&R's one would be ideal for trailside plinking as well. I like my .38 Special, but it does give my ears trouble when I cap off at a squirrel.
 
I love my nagant..its so anemic and eurotrashy...so...so....beardedguysinblacksuitsplottingrevolutioninabackwardscountryattheturnofthecenturywithsamovarsandgaslamps

Odd you should mention that. Interordinance is now including a gas lamp and samovar with every Nagant revolver.
 
I've tried the .32 ACP cylinders and found them to be junk. Also, accuracy wasn't great AND .32 ACP isn't exactly cheap either. Military Gun Supply had a bunch of 7.62 Nagant but their current website is down. You might give them a call - (817)457-6000.

HTH,
Mike
 
Well there's nothing that will spur me to buy a cheap firearm more than a lot of people saying it's no good, so I ordered one from Interordinance yesterday afternoon :D

There are some scary similarities between how I pick firearms and how I choose women. Looking back on it, I do seem to favor outdated, cheap, ugly women with hard trigger pulls :scrutiny:
 
Hey, just because I said they ain't quiet, doesn't mean I don't like 'em.

I have a 1940 Tula that I bought just about a year ago. I load ammo, so I have been using both .32-20 brass in the Lee Nagant hybrid die set, and I reload Finocchi Nagant brass with my CH4D "authentic" 7.62 Russian Nagant die set and the RCBS shell holder.

Loading is easier with .32-20 brass due to its wider rim. The genuine Nagant brass has the faintest suggestion of a rim which can cause brass to pop out of the shellholder at times -- especially if you don't lube adequately.

The Nagant brass is longer, allowing you to use the Nagant gas seal feature. The gun is well made, completely simple, and quite handy. Yes, the double action trigger is stiff. I'm not bothered by that. This is a true plinker for me.

I love my Nagant, truly love it.
 
I would have thought that gas seal made it less loud than a standard .38 Special. For that matter, my experience with .32 ACP's and the old .32 revolver cartridges has been they don't make nearly as much bang as the .38's. Since I'm eyeing this for blasting stupid chickens and hare standing on the trail getting a tan, I don't want to have to mess with ear protection. I've shot the Colt .38 Special with no plugs in and it wasn't too much fun.
 
As a relative newbie to the Nagant - and the Gunboards 'home' of same - I decided to go the reloading route, as the Fiocchi ammo is too pricey, my .32 ACP cylinder didn't work, and I don't like removing bulged & split cases (Magtech .32 S&WL). Sadly, the only available new cases are the pricey ($13/20) Australian made ones Graf's and others carry - the Graf's 100/$21 goodies still being a pipe dream. Of course, the custom made steel true Nagant die set is also expensive.

I went with the goodies mentioned in a Dillon 'Blue Press' article on reloading for the Nagant: The Lee 'special' Nagant set comes with a steel sizer... I subbed the Lee carbide M1 Carbine die, using only the .32-20 seating/crimping die. I also had the .32-20 shellplate holder & pins for my 550B and the M1 Carbine powder funnel. Since the rim thickness is too much on those .32-20's (... causing the revolver to 'jam'...), I sanded ~ .010" off, leaving plenty of the headstamp. I used 240grit Si/C paper on a flat surface. The rim diameter was too great (... difficult case insertion), so I turned down ~.024" off it's diameter with a three-jaw chuck equipped Taig micro lathe, a tedious process with 200 new Starline .32-20 cases (I only mangled two!). I loaded the cases with 2.3gr TiteGroup and topped with nearly flush mounted Meister 100gr .312" DEWC's. The resulting round groups better than anything else - and closer to POA than anything else... very nearly the equivalent of the Fiocchi ammo, at much less cost. And... the cases fall out! I have reloaded some cases three times now with no visible side effects - they should last a while... certainly longer than my trigger finger in that DA mode...

The original 7.62x38r Nagant ammo was ~100gr FMJ @ 1,000+ fps, fairly potent. Fiocchi ammo runs ~675 fps, the Ruskie target stuff ~592 fps. They have case mouths which will extend into the barrel, expanding slightly upon firing, thus needing that SA-style ejector rod, while my reshaped .32-20's don't - and literally fall out. Of course, the convex cone of the barrel is actually pushed against by the concave cone of the cylinders' chamber exits to effect a decent ' gas seal', if the surfaces are kept clean. Additionally, the slow speeds produces less leading to clean up. I still don't know if those cases were worth all of the effort... but it is nice to have 'easy to use' ammo for it. Neat weird gun.

Stainz
 
Yeah I realized that about Graf & sons when I tried to order it. :mad:

Oh well. I'll do what I always do and scrounge. In the mean time .32 H&R Mag is affordable around here so I picked up some boxes of it. WIth so many revolvers out there, it's only a matter of time before someone starts cranking out proper brass for the things. I for one would like to handload up to the standard Ruskie levels and see what that pup can really do.
 
Got it, shot it. It's a Tula arsenal 1938 production in great overall shape. The DA trigger pull isn't as bad as I was thinking. It's a very primal trigger pull--like drawing back a self bow. SA trigger pull is good, but also very primal. You pull and get nothing nothing nothing then SNAP as that umpteen lb. spring flies off the sear. It's a clean break, I'll say that for it.

Accuracy with .32 H&R's was quite good. More than sufficient for nailing ptarmigan. But, as I was advised above, the noise level is NOT low. The thing makes even more noise than a .38 and produces a good size muzzle flash. There was some debris flying back from the forcing cone and hitting my face. I'll swap different loads around and see if it gets fixed. Obviously using the proper Nagant ammo would solve the problem completely.

The balance is excellent, however. Even my FFL was commenting on how well it balanced and aimed. The blueing looks to be extremely durable, and the frame is very very stout. I've seen warnings not to pack too much pressure on these revolvers but honestly I have to wonder if anyone has pressure tested them. My bet is they could cope with +p pressure easily. The walls between the chambers are no where near as thin as on a .45 Colt SAA, for example. And the frame is very solid steel. It's my understanding that Soviet ball was about twice as potent as the target ammo Fiocci sells now. With actual field loading, the Nagant cartridge gets up to the same level as a .32 H&R mag. Not spectacular, but enough to take seriously.
 
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