41magsnub
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Or I could just own what fits my hand perfectly right out of the box and not have to mess with it. Much easier on the bank account.
1911...are they really THAT much better???
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Or I could just own what fits my hand perfectly right out of the box and not have to mess with it. Much easier on the bank account.
krs
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I keep a Glock 19 in my bathroom in case a home invader comes while I'm in there.
The Glock is better than any of my 1911's for that because it's not supposed to rust and I wouldn't care much if it did.
The Glock is better than any of my 1911's for that because it's not supposed to rust and I wouldn't care much if it did.
Joe Demko
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Better for what?
A competent shooter with a working example of any other major caliber pistol trumps some random clown armed with the finest 1911 ever made.
I own a couple 1911's; a Colt and a Springfield. I used the Springfield as a duty pistol. I also own a M&P .45 and I had a S&W 4566 I wish I hadn't sold. We won't go into all the revolvers and autos that aren't .45's that are stashed around here.
I preferred the 1911 enough over the others to carry it. However, if I had been constrained to carry something else, I'd have got on with the job anyway.
Let's not try to elevate something as subjective as personal preference to the level of objective fact. If you like 1911's, carry one. If not, there are many other choices available.
A competent shooter with a working example of any other major caliber pistol trumps some random clown armed with the finest 1911 ever made.
I own a couple 1911's; a Colt and a Springfield. I used the Springfield as a duty pistol. I also own a M&P .45 and I had a S&W 4566 I wish I hadn't sold. We won't go into all the revolvers and autos that aren't .45's that are stashed around here.
I preferred the 1911 enough over the others to carry it. However, if I had been constrained to carry something else, I'd have got on with the job anyway.
Let's not try to elevate something as subjective as personal preference to the level of objective fact. If you like 1911's, carry one. If not, there are many other choices available.
searcher451
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I've been buying and/or collecting guns for more than 40 years, and I've never owned a 1911 or any make or stripe. It's not that I have anything against them, mind you. I've just never seen one that screamed "must-have" or "gotta own it" anywhere on the slide. Who knows? -- someday maybe. But I've gotten along fine thus far without one.
Furncliff
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A smart gun store clerk had me do an interesting exercises when I was shopping for my first center fire semi auto. He had me stand sideways to the counter while he put pistol after pistol on the counter, fairly rapidly. I was to pick up the one offered and just hold it. Feels bad, put it right back on the counter, feels mmm o.k.. hold it some more. When he got to the Browning HP it was close but grip is too short. Two guns later I said stop, this is it. 1911. I have other's now but the 1911 is still the one I'm most accurate with.
M14/11B
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If the Hi-power is the "improved" version of the 1911 by Browning, what makes it better than the .45?
krs
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Fewer parts, more capacity, finer fitting. More refined = improved.
jahwarrior
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i used to think the 1911 platform was a bit dated, and why not? i grew up in the Glock era of handguns. i don't really remember when the NYPD carried revolvers, or anything but Glocks. my dad had an old GI issue 1911 hidden in the closet, and was an old, beat-up looking thing. so, looking at that, and Glocks, it's easy to see why i thought the 1911 was relic of the firearms world.
years later, when i decided to carry a gun, i wanted something affordable, compact, easy to use, and ready to go out of the box. i bought a popular Tupperware 9mm, and carried it for years. but something kept drawing me to the 1911 section of the display case whenever i went to go buy more ammo. i would stand there looking, and wondering what they'd be like to carry. my dad had since bought a Colt Officer's Model to carry, and i got a chance to shoot it. i liked it, but i also liked carrying 16+1 of 9mm rather than just 7+1 of .45ACP.
still, i stared at them, whenever i got the chance. it was like owning and loving a German Sheperd, but going to the zoo, and being stared down, and entranced, by a wolf.
not too long ago, i broke down, and bought my first 1911. it was an old, Commander sized Llama. it was beat up, it wasn't real accurate, and it needed a lot of work to get it to work, but i was done in. i was bitten. i decided right then and there that my next handgun would be another 1911, albeit a quality one.
i think much of the mystique around the 1911, and the .45ACP, is that they're a real slice of Americana, in the same way that Harley Davidson motorcycles, '55 Buicks, Clint Eastwood, and the blues are. they are few weapons that are readily identified as being truly American; the few others that come to mind are the AR15 platform, the Winchester lever action rifles, and Native American war clubs. many countries and cultures have their own signature weapon: the Japanese have their katanas, the Zulus have the Iklwa spear, and so on. the 1911 is the American weapon.
years later, when i decided to carry a gun, i wanted something affordable, compact, easy to use, and ready to go out of the box. i bought a popular Tupperware 9mm, and carried it for years. but something kept drawing me to the 1911 section of the display case whenever i went to go buy more ammo. i would stand there looking, and wondering what they'd be like to carry. my dad had since bought a Colt Officer's Model to carry, and i got a chance to shoot it. i liked it, but i also liked carrying 16+1 of 9mm rather than just 7+1 of .45ACP.
still, i stared at them, whenever i got the chance. it was like owning and loving a German Sheperd, but going to the zoo, and being stared down, and entranced, by a wolf.
not too long ago, i broke down, and bought my first 1911. it was an old, Commander sized Llama. it was beat up, it wasn't real accurate, and it needed a lot of work to get it to work, but i was done in. i was bitten. i decided right then and there that my next handgun would be another 1911, albeit a quality one.
i think much of the mystique around the 1911, and the .45ACP, is that they're a real slice of Americana, in the same way that Harley Davidson motorcycles, '55 Buicks, Clint Eastwood, and the blues are. they are few weapons that are readily identified as being truly American; the few others that come to mind are the AR15 platform, the Winchester lever action rifles, and Native American war clubs. many countries and cultures have their own signature weapon: the Japanese have their katanas, the Zulus have the Iklwa spear, and so on. the 1911 is the American weapon.
HammerheadSSN663
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Customizability is huge. People really can bond with a weapon that they put work into. It's all the little things that shouldn't even matter but make the gun a legend in your own mind. Sorta like Japanese swordsmiths who spent months under waterfalls praying and meditating over each sword they made.
Doesn't hurt that it's a solid design either. I'm not sure they'll ever replace it; not until "rail pistols" come around.
Doesn't hurt that it's a solid design either. I'm not sure they'll ever replace it; not until "rail pistols" come around.
turkeythigh
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my first time shooting a 1911 was when i was fifteen and i have loved them ever since. i don't own one yet but that is going to change in the not so distant future. i think i will go with a RIA GI. they are inexpensive and i have heard good things about quality and customer service. any way i have said it before and i wall probly say it again, it's all personal preference, if it feels good and you like it then no one can say anything about it.
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