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1911 Commander -- the new range length?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by mbruce, Jan 14, 2013.

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  1. CPshooter

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    About time C&L! Thanks for saving the thread!
     
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    No problem! Some threads need saving.

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  3. mbruce

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    did you carve those grips from that cut tree branch?

    Speaking of grips -- I have to get some flashier ones for the Guardian and make it more chick...its for her not me. VZ makes some cool looking ones.
     
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  4. Sergei Mosin

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    Friend of mine while bought a nice stainless Colt Commander yesterday. Have to admit I am tempted by Commanders at times myself...
     
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    Nope...the grips are made from antler.
     
  6. mbruce

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    I was just joking with you.

    I ordered a pair of the VZ ETC Zebra G10 Slim for her Guardian 9mm. Of course I had to order some for my V-bob..predator green.

    VZ has some awesome customer service
     
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    OK, you got me! :eek:
     
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    my Sig C-3 has 4.2" bbl and is as fun at the range as any of my full size 1911's. the difference in perceived re-coil is hardly noticeable. it is accurate and a reliable carry gun.
     
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    Not sure how much difference the sight radius would make for action-type shoots, but I can't tell any difference in ringing steel and knocking down falling plates in a hurry.

    For street/SD use, the Commander holds one slight advantage over its 5-inch cousin by being a shade quicker out of the leather due to its shorter slide and 3.5 ounce less weight for the Combat Commander...and 12 ounces for the LW Model. Although those differences aren't great...when the game is real and the winners and losers are often decided in fractions of seconds...it could make all the difference in the world.
     
  10. Ankeny

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    For me, the longer sight radius of the 5 inch is advantageous across the board. FWIW, there is no difference in my draw times with a Commander vs. a full size.
     
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    Whether or not it speeds our draw times is irrelevant. It clears the leather quicker. What we do after it clears determines the time to the first shot.
     
  12. mbruce

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    I'm sure i'll get a 5" or 6" in a 9mm one day. I'm not much of a traditionalist who thinks a platform is defined by its caliber like some of the .45acp studs. :)

    Something was just slick about the commander size. Probably b\c we already own longer slides in polymer and a lot of times I think how cool it would be to shoot something shorter.

    For me -- I'm always looking to keep things in perspective of reality. We shoot 5,6,8" steel reactive targets for fun on the weekends without worry if we hit or miss -- seeing dirt fly can be funny. My reloads tailored to that 4.25" commander will group more consistently than any factory ammo bought off the shelf and shot from a 5".

    Interacting on the forum, reading countless reviews and posts about a 5" and a 4.25", and speaking with 1911 pistolsmiths reminded me of one thing -- Is the 5" slide going to beneift or add enjoyment to my style and critiques of my shooting -- and the overwhelming answer for me was no b\c i just like to hear ping or dig for worms.

    My main issue was -- is this thing gonna kick like a donkey. Not because I'm a wuss but because who wants to invest that kind of money in a compact range gun if it's not pleasant. then I started looking into well Aluminim vs Steel... Ended up steel with me and alumimum for my wifes 9mm.

    All in all -- after intense reading, researching, and questioning it reminded me to always keep things in perspective.

    P.S. - I had to google to see what FWIW meant. lol.
     
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    Let me rephrase. There is no difference in time for me to the first shot between a Commander and a 5 inch shooting drills on a square range. Guess I am just all thumbs.
     
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    I have a V-Bob (and Valor) and they're really nice pistols with just about every feature one could want, and the DWs are extremely accurate. I had some issues with both of mine but I was able to resolve just about all of them but I'm still working on the rear Heinie sight on the V-Bob. I certainly wouldn't mess with the finish. You had to pay extra to get that salt nitride treatment which is probably one of the best 1911 finishes available.

    I have 5", 4.25" and 4" 1911s and don't find appreciable differences between them in terms of felt recoil.

    Here's my V-Bob with VZ grips.

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    From Ed Brown's FAQ

    How often should the recoil spring be replaced? What recoil spring is used in the Ed Brown 1911's?

    We recommend replacing the recoil spring every 3000 rounds. Our 5" models are equipped with an 16.5# recoil spring as standard, while the 18# is generally preferred for heavier loads. Our 4.25" models are equipped with a 20# spring.
     
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