1911 Detail Strip: A video

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Ok, I got using the slide stop for the MSH pin, and the sear spring for the mag release, but what we're you using to get the extractor out?
 
Detail stripping a 1911 without tools has been mentioned a few times
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On my old department, that was something you had to be able to do in order to carry a Semi-auto pistol in place of the issued revolver.

It was a bit funny that they required the same class when folks started wanting to carry personally owned Berettas, SIG, and Glocks
 
Not a new thing for him, is it?

Detail stripping a 1911 without tools has been mentioned a few times, and the other day, Hunter Lee Elliot made the 90-mile trip from the state capitol with his most excellent video camera to record the event.* * *
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Just curious, but isn't Hunter the same gun-reviewer dude who, on his gun-blog site, always includes a pic showing a full detail-strip of the gun he's reviewing - including 1911s, like Colt's Delta Elite?
 
9mmepiphany wrote,
On my old department, that was something you had to be able to do in order to carry a Semi-auto pistol in place of the issued revolver.

It was a bit funny that they required the same class when folks started wanting to carry personally owned Berettas, SIG, and Glocks
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Did you need to be able to detail strip the issued revolvers too?

Having the rank and file detail stripping some guns seems like it would be more trouble for the armorers than it would be worth. "Here you go Mr. Armorer, I detail stripped my Beretta 92G just fine, but now I can't figure out how to get it back together. I'm pretty sure I have most of the parts in this plastic bag, but there may have been some little spring that may have shot across the living room at some point. I really don't know since I never did find it." I suspect guns like the Beretta 92 and SIG P-Series could live their entire service lives just fine without ever being detail stripped.
 
Nice, but it really needs to be done slower, with detailed narration explaining what's being done, and with what parts, with cautions as needed so parts don't get damaged. Explain the order of disassembly, why it's in that order, why the various parts can be used as tools, etc.

As it is, it's more of a "watch how fast I can strip this 1911 using its own parts as tools" video. It needs to be more instructional.

Sorry, just my humble opinion.....
 
As it is, it's more of a "watch how fast I can strip this 1911 using its own parts as tools" video. It needs to be more instructional.
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It was done more as a demonstration of the original design than an instructional/how-to.

The reason being that the thumb safety is the key that opens the box, and very few modern 1911 variants have the correct style safety...and most are cast or MIM which aren't really well-suited to absorbing the impact from the slide when knocking the mainspring housing pin out.

Hunter wants me to do an instructional detail strip video later this year. I promise I'll slow it down and do more 'splainin'.

Meanwhile, I used the thumb safety for the MSH pin...the hammer strut for the rest, except for the time i used the sear spring for the mag catch. Then, at the end, I used the barrel bushing for the plunger when the safety went back in.
 
I have won $5 by betting on this several times.

I always use the magazine for a hammer, instead of the slide. Takes a few more taps, but it works.
 
Whoa. I'm in awe of the skill. The speed at which you tore the whole gun down to nothing is surely impressive.
I wonder what is the fastest a person could detail strip and reassemble a 1911. I wonder how that time would compare to a similar chore with a more modern firearm (Glock, M&P, etc...)
 
Perhaps it was the particular 1911 he used, but MrColt45acp in the video in post 9 above didn't have to hammer the mainspring housing pin at all. He just pushed it out with the hammer plunger.
 
The gun was a stock Norinco that has fewer than 300 rounds through it. I use it for demonstrating the no-tool strip because it has the right thumb safety design.

The mainspring housing pin isn't loose by any stretch. It's actually more resistive than most of my other ones.

John...you weren't paying attention. I pushed the pin out after I knocked it past the mainspring plunger with the slide.

Ben...I've never been timed using the gun's parts as tools...but with a punch and a small screwdriver, the guy who took the video timed me at 48 seconds about 5 years ago starting with the gun assembled with an empty magazine in place. I forget the time to get it back together, but it was around a minute-30.

I wasn't in any particular hurry for the video. It only seems that way because Hunter used two cameras and switched angles back and forth during the final cut.

Like I said...it was a demo for those who've never seen it done...not an instructional/how-to.
 
1911Tuner, I thought I saw you use the slide as a hammer, and I thought Zach S say that he uses the magazine for a hammer instead of the slide.

I also thought I said that MrColt45acp did the no tool strip without using anything as a hammer.

The difference between your technique and MrColt45acp's technique is that he removed the hammer and sear before removing the mainspring housing, thereby removing the spring tension from the pin and negating the need to pound on the thumb safety with the slide (or magazine.)

Where wasn't I paying attention?

MrColt45acp's video, where he narrates each step and what part to use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9HhqeTou70
 
1911Tuner, I thought I saw you use the slide as a hammer
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I did. You said that I pushed the MSH pin out without acknowledging the fact that I knocked it past the plunger first. Thought you were lookin' for a trick setup.

I also thought I said that MrColt45acp did the no tool strip without using anything as a hammer.
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He did. You can do that with some of'em. I've used the thumb safety to push the pin without having to use a hammer. Others...with new/unworn plungers...require a little help. That Norinco is one of those. Enter the slide/hammer.

The difference between your technique and MrColt45acp's technique is that he removed the hammer and sear before removing the mainspring housing, thereby removing the spring tension from the pin and negating the need to pound on the thumb safety with the slide
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And if he'd had a pistol that wouldn't let him push the pin past the plunger, he'd have had to use the thumb safety and the slide. Either way, the safety is designed to push the pin out...not the hammer strut. That's the reason for the flat area directly over the crosspin.

And there's plenty of spring tension on the pin, even without the hammer.
 
After a phone conversation with Hunter, he's agreed to do another detail strip video...slower and geared toward instruction than simple demonstration...with a couple bonus demonstrations on lowering the hammer and the usually incorrectly executed pinch check without killing kittens or flaying fingers.

Should be no more than a couple weeks.

Stay tuned. Pun intended.
 
After a phone conversation with Hunter, he's agreed to do another detail strip video...slower and geared toward instruction than simple demonstration...with a couple bonus demonstrations on lowering the hammer and the usually incorrectly executed pinch check without killing kittens or flaying fingers.

Should be no more than a couple weeks.
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Please post a link to the new video on this thread when its completed. I don't want to miss it. Great videos. Thanks for posting.
 
texagun, it's scheduled for the next couple weeks...whenever he can arrange to make the 90 minute trip from Raleigh.

We also plan to do a drop test with a live round, geared to making sure that the round will fire. I've got a theory that it's not as fraught with peril as many believe, and we're gonna find out.

I also plan to include a demonstration of the correct technique for lowering the hammer and the pinch check that Steven Seagal does all wrong.

So now, we wait for Hunter to get the lead out.
 
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