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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by the Black Spot, Feb 16, 2017.

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  1. LoonWulf
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    Id waffle at 300 they go for 350ish nib here
     
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    This one is new in box. Guy bought it and never shot it. Still has the box
     
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    In that case id snag it
     
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    I'll second that decision.
     
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    That Xs7 at 250s a good snag also, youd need to add a scope but i think the Xs is a better gun than the axis..........i may have to order one of those actually....wait...all .243s not want lol, still a great buy if your in the market for a .243 lol
     
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    I agree that the XS-7 is probably a little nicer rifle, however the Axis won't require a transfer fee or shipping and will come with a fair scope (it has poor quality optics/light gathering, but it's serviceable). I think that's one point they improved on the Axis-II, I'd take the Weaver (not the greatest, but not the worst either) over the bottom of the barrel Bushnell any day. On the other hand, if you want to put a decent scope on it (and you really should if you have the budget to do so) the XS-7 definitely has a better stock. Both have barrel nuts so it's easy to swap the barrels on them if you decide you want a different chambering or simply burn up the first (which is not unlikely, if you shoot it a fair bit, given the chambering).
     
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    Well i got it. Trigger feels in 4-5 lb. range. Scope replacement will be in the future up grades.
    Might remove 2-3" off the forend to stiffen it up.
    I will check all the screws.
     
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    Congrats on the new addition. Perhaps you could rasp out the barrel channel thus preventing it from contact whilst preserving the front of the forearm (it'll still be flimsy, but at least it won't touch the bbl).
     
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    You can also epoxy fill the forend, that helps stiffen it to a degree.
    The savage stock usually have alot of clearance on the bottom so it's mostly the sides you have to worry about.
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    Thanks for the ideas!
     
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    Sorry forgot to mention, if you DO use and epoxy fill use a slow cure epoxy, they will usually shrink the least. Also fill the voids in the stock completely so there is a layer of epoxy on top, that helps create more of a mechanical resistance to flex....

    Ill grab a picture of my savage stock, i did a better job on that one.
     
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    That's a good idea, Loon. There's absolutely nothing good about fast set epoxy...it's weaker, has a tendency to creep, degrades faster, and as mentioned shrinks more. If you want to add a little more stiffness you could also epoxy in something for support (think steel reinforced concrete); I've heard of carbon fiber/aluminum arrows or fiberglass tent poles (preferably little hunks cut to fit diagonally into each void/cell) being used for this. If you do this you don't have to fill the entire void, just adequately support the reinforcement (so it's lighter than epoxy if that's a concern).
     
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    A friend of mine just bought a Ruger Predator in .243 a couple weeks ago. We've taken it to the range several times already. Shoots well. Just shot factory ammo in it so far. Shoots about 1 MOA so far, maybe a little less. I like it, it has a good trigger. The only thing negative about it, and this may actually be a positive thing for a carry around varmint/deer rifle, is that it is soo light that it kicks pretty good for a .243. My friend also noticed it giving a pretty sharp jolt for a .243. I only mention it because you said you were also interested in something for "the younger kids to hunt with".
     
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    Probably only to a minute; 1/60th as much.

    It'll still bend at the point below where the barrel fits the receiver where the recoil lug is.

    One's usually better off opening the barrel channel to a 1/8" clearance at the fore end tip.
     
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    I think Ruger + .243 is a great first choice.
     
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    I agree with opening the forend tip, I usually do both depending on stock. Some stock also respond better to epoxy filling than others, that ruger stock i pictured it did little as it flexs bad right where you said it would. My savage 11 stock it works quite well as the stock reinforcements are more open, and there is a large area in front of and to the sides the recoil lug that can be filled...the savage also has a huge gap around the barrel at the tip so that helps also.
     
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    I have a Savage Axis (without the adjustable trigger) in .223 Remington that I put a cheap red dot on top of and I've been very satisfied with it.

    Where I shoot it, the longest distance is 225 meters, so I can't say anything about how it would do with a scope over longer distances, and I haven't taken it hunting (out of state deer stamps are just too expensive) but at "white tail" distances, it is accurate enough with just the red dot.
     
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    I own a Ruger American and a Mossberg patriot and my favorite by far is the patriot.
    I like my American and both are accurate but the patriot is a more solid built rifle in my opinion. They aren't prone to the little problems the American is known for like difficulty chambering and the magazine problems. Matter of fact I don't have a single complaint about the patriot.

    Now keep in mind not every American owner has these problems but I've read plenty of boards and forums discussing these issues
     
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