2 Long guns pulled from Lanza's trunk (video proof)

[Cosmoline]

The conspiracy nuts are crawling all over this, and doing the cause NO good at all. The business about people being fake parents or whatnot is particularly outrageous and makes us sound like FEMA death camp nutters.

 

[tarosean]

^ she owned 5 guns
2 pistols, the AR, Shotgun and a 22.

Cannot tell anything from the vid IMO.

 

[jamesbeat]

I do agree that it is important to get facts straight in situations like this, especially as it appears that we are going to lose some of our Second Amendment rights over a detail of this case.
However, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and we're not going to do ourselves any favors by putting too much of a conspiracy theory angle on it.
If it turns out in the official reports that there was no semiauto rifle actually used, then the antis should be called on it, but I doubt it will change much.

 

[I_AM_LEGEND]

I'm pretty sure the media reported that the .22lr was left at home. Sandy Hook happened, those kids are dead, Robbie Parker is just a weird individual. All of that garbage about the shooting being entirely faked is ridiculous. However, I do think the question about what guns were actually used is a valid one as well as questions about what was said on the police dispatch about 2 shadows running past some windows and the video footage of guys being chased through the woods. I don't know about you but if I'm not the actual shooter, I'm not running through the woods to get away from the cops.

Here's the link to the dispatch audio for anyone who hasn't heard it. You can hear the cops talking about individuals running and apprehending them. Right around the 5:40 mark they say they have an individual proned out. That is supposedly the same guy the one eyewitness said he saw cuffed that was wearing camo pants and a black shirt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9klblvRFzaI

 

[Claude Clay]

coincidence or ?? that FEMA was staging a Children in Distress 10 miles away and had many vehicles in the Sandy Hook School parking lot 15 minutes before the shooting started? google FEMA L 366.

i am 40 miles away with friends ( shooting buddies) who live in and around the school. all of us independently came to think that things are not adding up. but as has been said here...its not truth which drives those in power now and even if it was a staged event that got out of hand and than played up to the press. it may be 40 years before the truth leaks out--if ever unless American's become free again.

i say 40 years cause like the Kennedy assassination pieces of what was known to have happened are now becoming public.

 

[Manco]

First time I've seen that video, gotta admit it does look like 2 different guns were removed from that trunk.

Admittedly, it does cause some suspicion. The first lengthy object removed appears to be a long gun, but it could be either a Saiga-12 or AR-15 (or any other type of rifle/shotgun, for that matter). The second object could be another long gun, or it could be something else entirely. That's all I can make out, I'm afraid. Now, if there were a feature that we could positively identify, such as the characteristic front sight of an AR-15 on the first object, for example, then we'd have something. Unfortunately, the video is just too unclear for us to be certain about anything, really.

 

[gossamer]

then were did he get the second ar15?

if you dont want conspiracy then you must provide facts

police said the mother owned one ar15 and they said one was found not two

we see the one on the video so from where did the second one you claim come from?

I'm going to write this again. The presence of an AR in his car does NOT evidence the claim that "he used an AR in the school." to be a lie. Under ANY circumstances. PERIOD.

It MAY evidence that the claim "His mother had one AR." is incorrect.

You do understand the difference, right?

And honestly, if anyone really thinks that iron-clad proof that an AR wasn't used in Sandhook is going to change the gun grabber agenda one tiny little bit, or that it's going to provide an ounce more credibility to our cause, then I'm not sure they possess the perspective required to argue this threat effectively.

Again: less conspiracy, more advocacy.

 

[I_AM_LEGEND]

Gossamer I know what you're saying, I agree with you but the media and police have both reported only the shotgun was in the trunk so if there was 2 long guns in there, I think the answer is more likely that it was the only AR rather than a second one.

Like you said, either way the gun grabbers are moving forward full steam ahead.

However, if it's exposed that the AR-15 wasn't used and that gets spread on social media, well, that's going to benefit us greatly with those on the fence. This battle is going to be won with social media. There's a reason Obama punted on the executive orders. Which by the way, if you're not on social media, you need to be. Post pics of your wife / mother / girlfriend shooting assault rifles and confront the anti-gunners with the facts we know, that gun control doesn't work. Every lil starbucks drinking, scarf wearing liberal has facebook and twitter and pushes the Democrat propaganda, we need ever gun owner countering that to educate the sheeple.

 

[Manco]

I do agree that it is important to get facts straight in situations like this, especially as it appears that we are going to lose some of our Second Amendment rights over a detail of this case.
However, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and we're not going to do ourselves any favors by putting too much of a conspiracy theory angle on it.

Well, if we had clear evidence in the video, then it must be a conspiracy at some level. But we don't have that--not even close, so it definitely doesn't help to promote such an unlikely theory.

If it turns out in the official reports that there was no semiauto rifle actually used, then the antis should be called on it, but I doubt it will change much.

Actually, I think it would change a lot because the focus of their Sandy Hook/Aurora-based attack on our rights is on so-called "assault rifles" and all the easy lies that go with that. Going after handguns directly (beyond limiting magazine capacity) is not something they're prepared to do at this point, and their argument against "assault rifles" would be weakened. Unfortunately, I doubt that they had any reason to lie about the type of weapon used, and the many other open lies they tell about "assault rifles" haven't hurt their cause.

 

[sansone]

12:56 - posts conspiracy thread

1:01 - edits own post about conspiracy thread

1:20 - whines that nobody has taken the troll bait.

Dude, quit sucking up our bandwidth with your silly garbage. Go harass the History Channel, apparently they think Aliens were responsible for everything from the Lascaux Cave Paintings to the Housing Bubble. Tons of screen captures for you to post of big, googly-eyed alien sketches!

this is personal attack and unjustifiable

 

[NickEllis]

Indeed. Let's keep it HR. Post reported.

IMO it's a legitimate topic of conversation. Personal attacks aren't allowed.

 

[Robert]

Well that didn't take long. We are done here.