.22 autoloader recommendation

I like having a variety of 22 pistols and revolvers. I have an H&R 949 and Taurus 942 revolver along with a Ruger MkII, S&W 22A, Glock G44, Kel-Tec CP33, and a 4.5" AR22 pistol. I loved having the GSG 1911 22lr conversion kit until it wore out enough to stop working at all. I find myself shooting the Kel-Tec CP33 and Glock G44 the most.

@1911 guy since you do like the 1911 platform and want something with good accuracy, I will again suggest a good 1911 conversion slide (if you can find them in stock) or one of the Ruger Mk series 22/45 pistols.
 
No experience with Browning or Beretta (would like to try both). Whatever Ruger MK series pistol that has the features you are looking for.
 
I've got a Colt/Walther Gov't Model and really like it. Shoots decently accurate given the GI sights, and has caused me zero issues after several thousand rounds. Trigger is really nice, surprisingly. Probably better than some of my S&W revolvers! I also have a Ruger Mk I that is more accurate than I'll ever be, but is a pain to take down and clean. My Mk I cost me $200 last month (lucky Gunbroker catch) plus another $40 to replace the missing magazine. The Colt cost me $360 brand new last September plus another $40 for a spare mag, all purchased from Bud's Gun Shop. I like both of them, honestly. For the money, the Colt is excellent; the Ruger is no slouch either. Given you're a 1911 guy, I'd buy the Colt and have done with it.

Mac
 
James K2020 said:
Bought a Buckmark UDX last Fall. Very nice, very accurate. Easy breakdown. Very few misfeeds- mostly during early break-in which technically it probably is still in.
Bought a used High Standard Sport-King. Maybe a little more accurate? But it always jams on the first auto-loaded round. After I pull that one out and toss its bent head to the ground, the rest feed fine. Frustrating because it is dead accurate.
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Have you tried loading one less than max in the magazine?
 
I generally find any off the shelf rimfire firearm to need a small bit of modification to optimize reliability. Magazines and extractors being the most oft suspects, they receive special attention usually before firing a round.

My current favorite rimfire pistol is the Mark IV 22/45 in Kraken guise which does an even better job of mimicking 1911 controls.
 
I have a ruger mk iii that has had alot volquartsen parts swapped in and it has become a great target gun, a real tack driver. The only problem i have had is broker ejector claw.
 
Speedo66 said:
Have you tried loading one less than max in the magazine?
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Funny you should ask. Just took it out this morning and loaded the mag full which I believe is 10 and I did have one no-fire. Just went 'click' so I ejected it and kept going. No issues after that, maybe shot just 3 mags total. Was shooting a couple of other handguns, too.
The no-fire shell had a reasonable looking imprint on the rim so I figured it was just bad and tossed it. It happens with 22s. These were Federal.
So the cycling part seems fine and I'm not concerned with that- only my skill level.
 
Speedo66 said:
Have you tried loading one less than max in the magazine?
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Sorry, I was talking about the Buckmark. I've tried everything under the sun on the Sport-King except buy a new $65 mag from Interarms.
Yeah shoots great and very accurate but not reliable enough. Don't want to invest much into it. I'd by another High Standard but a different model.
 
Skylerbone said:
Same procedure, different manufacturer, might help, as might a new spring. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/ruger-mark-iv-magazine-tuning.905565/
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Very good tutorial. I'll do the manual cycling and see what marks there are on the cartridges and go from there.
I have cleaned the mags dutifully while assembled but have not disassembled and done the deep cleaning or sanding of the lips. Did try some hand adjustment without metal tools on the lips but no change. I know there's a $30+ tool for lip adjustment as well.
 
I've been having a lot of fun with a Walther PPK/s in 22 LR lately. D/A trigger isn't much to write home about, but the S/A is actually pretty good. It doesn't really like low powered ammo, but CCI mini-mags keep it purring like a kitten. Easy to strip down, clean and put back together. The sights are tiny, but seem to work well within the ranges I shoot at, which is inside of 7 yards. Beyond that my old eyes have a hard time with them. I paid right at $300 for it NIB, so it had the advantage of being inexpensive...releatively speaking of course.

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I don't know why you'd consider anything else except a 22/45 of some flavor, being a 1911 fan. Either the standard or Lite.
Either one is outstanding. And if it isn't, change the extractor & it will be.
Those umarex guns are garbage. Have unfortunately dealt with more than one and they're paperweights at best.
 
Here are my 22LR autoloaders in order of preference when I load up to go plinking.
  1. Ciener Target conversion over hand built receiver. Accurate, reliable, same weight as a real 1911
  2. Browning 1911-22 - reliable, accurate, and just feels good in the hand
  3. Colt Walther Gold Cup - Nice enough, less reliable than the Ciener, lighter
  4. Ruger LCP22 - because my daily carry is an LCP
  5. Ruger SR22 - Good modern gun. I bought one for my daughter
  6. High Standard 103 Sport king, pretty but the ergo and sights don't work for me.
  7. Llama Especial 1967 - collectible, not a keeper for me.
I also have a couple of the Astra Cubs in 22short, but that's not what this subject is about.
I have had several of the Ruger traditional models. Never warmed up to them, and the field strip was awful.
The PPK appeals to me. The Walther PK I had just seemed cheap.
My most accurate, satisfying to shoot .22 is my S&W K17. I can hit a 12" welding cylinder at 100 yards until my arm gets tired. But it's not an autoloader.
My next gun buy will be the new Sig P322. 2 - 20-round mags, optic-ready. It might move to the #1 position.
 
Cz kadet, I have one for a 75-sa, it's the most reliable .22 i've shot.can't speak for the newer ones and web shows out of stock. But I'd try to find a pistol and kadet kit for it.
 
Ditto for the 22lr conversion. I have one for a glock 17. Lets you use same trigger etc. Just replace the slide & use a 22 magazine. Best firearm investment i ever made. A joy to shoot.
 
For a .22 pistol, they're a lot more fun if they're accurate, so I would resist the urge to get something small, unless it is also accurate at 25 yards and reliable.

For mine, I bought a used Ruger Mk. II Target model in 1997 for my first gun. It has the 6-7/8" tapered bull barrel and is a tack-driver. I've shot many thousands of rounds through it. Last time I came back to clean it, the pin holding the receiver/barrel assembly onto the frame had broken. I called Ruger, ordered a new one for $8 or something, fixed it, and now I'm ready for another 20k rounds, hehehe. I was almost hoping it wouldn't be an easy fix, in which case I had a Browning Buck Mark all picked out.

When Ruger starting coming out with all these candy-colored models and 1911 grip angles, I think they lost a lot of the charm of the original formula.

I alternate between the factory sights (long sight radius) and a cheap BSA red dot. Either way, whenever I shoot it, I'm reminded of how inaccurate combat pistols are. It's not even a challenge to shoot 2" groups offhand at 15 yards with this gun.

Another thought: since you're such a 1911 fan, why not get a 1911 in .22LR?

Edit: We got my ex-wife a Buck Mark; a plain one with the slab-sided bull barrel. It was a great gun; I'm sorry I lost it in the divorce. ;-)
 
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I have a Ruger Mark IV 22/45 Lite and I like it a lot. It's my backup gun to my Black Mamba. I shoot it for Steel Challenge because it is accurate enough for targets out to 35 yards and is reliable with almost any ammo I've tried.

I bought the Walther ( Colt Gold Cup Trophy ) as a plinker for fun. I like the looks of the Colt and I like the trigger. It just feels good in my hand. It works very well with HV ammo and mine likes CCI Mini Mags and CCI Blazer the best.
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Just to clarify about comments about my Ruger 22/45 Lite- mine was unreliable, but every manufacturer can have lemons, I actually liked the gun- that’s why I bought it. Have had several Rugers, pistols and rifles, and they were very good firearms. Just FYI, if you have a 22/45, I think the main problem is the magazine, the lube on some .22 ammo gets built up in the magazine, especially on the nose area of the magazine, and this stops the next round from raising up into position for the slide to strip it into the chamber, you can actually see this sometimes if you pull the magazine button down and release it, sometimes the magazine spring isn’t strong enough to snap it into position because of the built up lube in your magazine. It helps if you clean nose area of magazine after every session- I use a .38 cal mop with solvent to clean this area
 
Almost all of the 1911 style 22LR pistols are made by Umarex. They are all about the same level of quality. They are cheap and disposable IMO. They make for good trainers but are not going to be as accurate or generally as reliable as Rugers, Browning Buckmarks and other dedicated 22LR pistols. As a strictly fun gun the GSG worked for me.
 
Won a Colt Woodsman Series 3 at auction over the weekend. Not inexpensive. Never shot one but the Colt guys sure love the Woodsman, mostly the Series 1 &2 because of their history. This one is close to 'new' with a mfg year of 1974- just a few years before Colt stopped production. Sure felt and looked nice during inspection.

Will be a few weeks before I get to shoot it. Really looking forward to that.
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