.22 handgun for DA practice

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Candiru

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Given the amount of double-action shooting I do and plan to do, I'd like to get an inexpensive handgun in an inexpensive caliber to practice double-action shooting inexpensively. (Notice a trend?) My DA guns so far are limited to Kahrs, although I hope to add a S&W 629 Mountain Gun to the mix; therefore, a small handgun with short sight radius would be best. Ideally, such a gun would have a smooth but heavy and long trigger. If it sounds like I'm looking for a gun that's hard to shoot well, you're right. The above attributes dramatically highlight bad technique, and that's what I want in a gun for learning and practice.

If I want to go with a small DAO .22 semi-auto, I'm pretty much limited to Taurus' PT-22, about which I've heard mixed messages. Given recent frustrations with cheap guns, I want something that just works--and continues to do so for thousands of rounds, as befits a target/practice/plinking gun.

This leaves revolvers. These are more expensive options, ranging from around $300 for a Taurus 94 to almost $500 for a Smith & Wesson 317. The upside, of course, is the decreased chance of the gun giving one grief, not to mention slightly greater self-defense utility and wider ammo capability. The former is a big incitement; the latter two are bonuses.

I need to know three things in order to make an informed decision, and I'm hoping this is where you can help me. First, how is the double-action trigger on Taurus revolvers, preferably the model 94? I'd prefer something with as little stacking as possible, but a heavy trigger is almost more of an advantage than defecit when used for training.

Second, do you think that a revolver is too different a platform from a semi-auto to make it useful for practicing trigger technique and sight alignment? My limited experience thus far says no, but there are a lot (most, I'm sure) on this board alone with more experience than I.

Finally, are there other .22 semi-autos or revolvers that fit my criteria (consistent double-action, smooth preferred over light, short sight radius) that I haven't considered?

Thanks for your help!
 
Here you go...Ruger SP-101 4" bbl 6-shot .22LR (copied from Ruger website)

Shown in .32 cal
 

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Fast double-action shooting can be hard on a revolver over the long run, so I'd stay away from cheaper models. The Ruger SP-101 would be a good choice, as would a used Smith & Wesson model 18 (K-22 Combat Masterpiece).

As a rule, the double-action trigger pulls on revolvers are better then those found on pistols, because the revolver is designed so that the trigger has some mechanical advantage when lifting the hammer. Trigger pulls on both are usually a little heavier on .22's because a greater hammer blow is required to ignite the rimfire cartridge.
 
Me too...

I've been thinking about getting an SP101 in .22 also. I have one in .357 and it's been perfect. How much should I expect to pay for the SP101 .22? In what barrel lengths is it available?
 
22 handgun

Check out the Firestorm FS22. Bersa also has a model of it's own, but the Firestorm has better grips, and (I think) the sights are improved over the Bersa model too.

This pistol basically looks like a cross between the Walther PPK and the Walther PP. It has an extended tang so slide bite is non-existent. It's a pleasure to shoot, and is 100% realiable and very accurate.

The Firestorm was my first Bersa/Firestorm product and I am so pleased with it I bought a Bersa Thunder 9 (ultra compact) and it's a very good pistol also.

Many people put the Bersa/Firestorm products down because they aren't very expensive. Some people equate quality only with price, and while generally that can be true it is NOT the case with the Bersa/Firestorms. People who DO NOT put Bersa/Firestorms down are the owners. We have found that the pistols are of excellent quality, accurate, reliable, and have a lifetime warranty. I paid $229.00 for my FS 22. (incld tax).

Another reason I like my FS22 so much is you can load up 10+1 rds. of CCI "Stingers" and you have a great trail/plinker, which CAN do backup duty for self defense. Some folks scoff at a 22cal "self defense" anything, but I feel 11 "Stingers" in the FS22 are certainly better than no pistol at all, and actually can do a lot of damage.

I had an early Taurus PT22 and it was pure MERDE.. Perhaps they've improved them with each new series, but I can assure you they simply are NOT in the same league as the FS22 and it's Bersa counterpart.

Check out the www.BersaTalk.com website, and you will find a lot of folks who really think highly of their Bersa/Firestorms.. I love mine.


Best Wishes.

JP :D
 
The Bersa/Firestorm is nice, but if I'm going to get a semi-auto, it
will need to be double-action only. Additionally, the 4" revolvers
mentioned above have a longer sight radius than I'm looking for.

Thanks everyone, and keep the suggestions coming!
 
I bought a Taurus 94 9shot snubby as a practice gun for my 3” SP101which is my primary CCW. About the same weight as the SP and has been flawless with over 700 rounds through it. The trigger pull is heavy but I like a heavy trigger and again it mimics the strong pull of the SP. Its my around the homestead gun. Had a PT-22. Never had good luck with it :cool:
 
I think the J-frame Smith is what you want. It will be a challenge to master, but when you do, you will be very good with "real" guns more appropriate for defense.

JR
 
V-fib, I was looking at the Taurus 94 snubbie. How smooth is the trigger? Any stacking?
 
I've had a Taurus 94 for more than a decade already. Hated it in the beginning....inconsistent, heavy trigger and tiny sights. Then a few years ago, I forced myself to learn how to shoot DA revolvers. I easily shot 1000's of rounds over the course of a few months teaching myself how to shoot that gun properly. The trigger never got any better, but I learned how to shoot it. Then one time out at the range, I shot a buddy's S&W 686...all 6 shots into a hole that you could cover w/ a quarter!
In short, that 94 turned out to be a great investment!
 
Do you think a DA revolver is good training for a DA semi-auto, or are
they different enough to make training on one incompatible with the
other?

I ask because I was surprised by how well I shot DA revolvers, and I got
all of my DA practice on semi-autos. However, I don't have enough
experience to know if this is a fluke or if DA semi-auto skill transfers
to revolvers, but not the other way around.
 
you could try a p22. you'd have to put on the safety and lower the hammer for each shot if you want double action, but it does fit the "short sight radius" and "hard to shoot well" criteria ;)
 
Taurus 94 snubby

Candiru,
The trigger is smooth with no stacking. However as said it is a heavy pulling trigger. Once you get used to it the gun is quite accurate and enjoyable to shoot.
:cool:
 
+1 for the Walther p22.

I got one for about 250 and it has helped me dramatically with all my pistols. Its very small and very light yet pretty accurate. It sure will let you know what your doing wrong.
 
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