223 bolt action

Wow, that's awesome. Nice job on the pig as well.
How do those hogs taste? I've always wondered about it. I'm anxious to get the 223. I have another 223 which I used to use in F class matches. Weights a ton. Appreciate your information and the great pictures..johnny

Depends on the hog. Boars like the one pictured I leave for the coyotes. Gilts and some sows are good, but it really helps to cure the meat in Morton's Tender Quick.

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For $200 more, you can get the American ranch from Ruger that takes 556. I went with the predator because it has a 22 inch barrel instead of the 16 inch barrel on the ranch although I am seriously considering getting one in 450. Also, I had a ton of 223 ammo. Just have to be careful not to accidentally load 556.
Ruger advertises the American Ranch as being 5.56. Is there some reason that you know of not to shoot the ammo they recommend? https://ruger.com/products/americanRifleRanch/specSheets/26965.html
 
I love Remington 700's and everything that can be done to one so I would look at used ones. But there are a few other choices. CZ, Tika, Ruger, Savage to name a few. None of these would be a wrong choice.
 
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I miss my old Savage 110T, although it was a touch boring at the range, what with generally making touching holes on paper where aimed.
Yeah I know. I had a 110E years ago. Darn good shooting rifle. Won several marine core. Matches with it. That was also 223..
 
Watch if you get the Saeco 60 grain mold in 224. A batch went out with mismatch halves and make bullets that wont shoot worth a pooh. Center lines of bullet halves are off maybe 0.0015 +/-.

Just check it right away to make sure its good so it can be sent back for another etc... I have several Saeco molds and this is the only one that had issues - others are fine moulds.

I have one now I'm going to have to do something with. Send to factory or redo the pins or something. It set on my shelf for close to a year before I tried to use it and found out it was crap.
 
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This is redundant now that you have already bought a rifle but concerning single shots, Houseofarms is now shipping the new Contender action so build your own. Wait time would be a limiting factor though. My first 223 rifle was a contender with a 23" bull barrel. Short and not all that heavy. With my handloads and when the stars align it will shoot 3 shot groups into less than .3" at 100 yards. Then you have to allow for bullet climb or let it cool off. Not a problem for coyote hunting though.

Savage used to make the Stevens 200 short action in 223 and I bought one for my oldest grandson to shoot. With my hand loads it was a 3/4 MOA rifle and got him a few coyotes and prairiedogs. Savage discontinued it for a time and then brought it back. I don't know if it is still available or not but I wouldn't trade one for two axis.
 
This is redundant now that you have already bought a rifle but concerning single shots, Houseofarms is now shipping the new Contender action so build your own. Wait time would be a limiting factor though. My first 223 rifle was a contender with a 23" bull barrel. Short and not all that heavy. With my handloads and when the stars align it will shoot 3 shot groups into less than .3" at 100 yards. Then you have to allow for bullet climb or let it cool off. Not a problem for coyote hunting though.

Savage used to make the Stevens 200 short action in 223 and I bought one for my oldest grandson to shoot. With my hand loads it was a 3/4 MOA rifle and got him a few coyotes and prairiedogs. Savage discontinued it for a time and then brought it back. I don't know if it is still available or not but I wouldn't trade one for two axis.
What I really want is a Ruger no.1 . I love those rifles,but I have to win the lottery first
 
For $359, I don't know how one could go wrong- Savage Axis XP Bolt-Action Rifle

I bought one a couple of years ago and have been very pleased with it.

These groups were shot during the fire-lapping process.

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I have an Axis II in 6.5 CM that will shoot 1/2 MOA with hand loads. Great value guns. Congrats!
 
What I really want is a Ruger no.1 . I love those rifles,but I have to win the lottery first
Don't blame you at all. I bought a slightly used one in 22-250 back in the '70' for $165 which included a cheap japanese scope and sling. I replaced the scope with a Leupold and chunked the sling. It has out done my contender with my handloads slightly but has exactly the same problem. Groups start climbing with the fourth shot. It is not nearly as easy to carry around as it is much longer and heavier but it will reach out and touch a prairiedog so far away it was hard to see with the naked eye. Well, after I had to start wearing bifocals they were, not so much before though.

My grandson got one with the Stevens I posted about that I couldn't find until I got out my binoculars. I was still wearing progressive bifocals at the time. He shot and after a bit the little critter fell over. I asked how much elevation he used and his reply was, a lot.
 
Ruger American predator
... I don't believe comes in 223 Rem. (Correction: it apparently does -- just not at Cabelas :mad:)

The Winchester XPR, however, (also) does... and also has a 22" barrel to maximize velocities, and an 8-twist for light-to-heavy bullets
FWIW: I have in in 350 Legend (which does quite nicely with cast0


QUESTION for savagelover: What (gas-checked) cast bullet are you considering using ?
 
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Actually just went and looked myself because I knew where it was. Model Designation since 2018 have all been 110 for both long and short.
Except a few models still use two digit identifiers for short action like the 12 Low profile varmint etc. Savage tinkers and changes to no end and to no avail. They had a great rifle years ago and should have left it alone.
 
These days, it's almost hard to get a rifle that doesn't shoot at least acceptably. Savage, Howa, Ruger, etc. You could just about pick one and if you have any gripes about it, it will likely not be that it doesn't shoot well.

During my last foray into bolt guns (I was a shooter, not a hunter), getting a bolt gun meant at the least picking an action, having it worked over and having a Krieger or some other such barrel installed. Now, my latest forray into bolt guns has been more for hunting and general purpose use. To that end, I researched a few different offerings from different manufacturers.

I landed on the Ruger American Ranch rifles. I now have a few of them. Many complain about the flimsy stock, but I've found the bedding system to be rock solid and the flex in the forearm hasn't caused any problems for me. They are also pretty tough. They are inexpensive tools that only require a minimal amount of care and don't need to be handled with kid gloves.

What I really like about them is the interchangeable mag well system Ruger employs. I really dislike any sort of proprietary magazine system. The Rugers allow the use of AR, Mini and AICS mags and going from one to the other only requires a $25 part that Ruger ships pretty quickly.

As for the action being rough, mine were all pretty rough out of the box, but over the past few months I've put a couple thousand rounds through each of my Ranch rifles and they slick up pretty nicely.

In the end, I likely my Ranch rifles enough to replace the triggers in all of them with Timneys. Since I got these, my ARs have been gathering dust.

I think the Rugers are definitely worth considering. If you're able to cast bullets, I think the 7.62x39 would be a hoot throwing lead. That's the one I shoot the most.
 
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